I do, better things to listen too than a few people striking because there is a few cut backs.. there are cut backs everywhere.

Also, for the record i am only looking for clarification and personally i think it is better when the league staff explain their decisions / reasons at least then all the members can stick their tuppence worth in and hopefully long term it helps the league.

No one is ever going to agree with them all off the time but i am sure that now some players will agree and some will not at least it is not a secret anymore which i believe causes more arguments than anything.

ha ha he to busy to watch the news he on here.

yes we would, maybe the babysitter might come up with a whole rule book for every event that happens, didnt know melody could see into the future, dang, might aswell make her league runner, she can tell us who's going to win too in her rule book of rules that has a rule for everything that might ever occur.

A half informed comment based on the biased image the government have portrayed, Well done!

Yep, maintaining a table that someone had a way better version of last season and then just dumped because he spat out his dummy.

Rather the ruling lord "Spoonie" have the riding decision on the matter you mean?

i was asked to have the final decision, i couldnt make a choice, would have been much easier if other defaulters had actually checked the forum? you know the thing your supposed to do?

oh spoonie u know nothing lol i had more important things than pool

lets cut it out now please

i think there should be some clear guidelines regarding the defaults bonus. the main problem atm seems to be either players leaving before a game is complete, or not being able to get online the same time as their opponent. in the first instance, if a player leaves during a clan game, whether it be through no fault of their own, why should the other team lose their bonus ?
there are 2 weeks to play a fixture, why are players defaulting when they say they cant get online the same time as their opponent ? surely that is the reason we have option to sub players in, or ask for subs. if neither are done, then neither team should be given the bonus. i think the main issue atm with the default bonus, is for teams to have the back up information ie. offline messages, team thread posts to show that they have made every effort they can to get the game played, if they can show this, and its the opposing team/player who has been uncooperative then they should not forfeit their bonus. Without the relevant information though, a bonus should not be given, maybe all captains should make it clear to their players that offline messages and any other info need to be kept , incase the game does go to default, if they dont it is their own fault for losing points .



as i said on default discussion

Well unfortunately if you'd have let the reminder of dgen actually be of use... you wouldn't have had to make the "final decision" I actually don't see why Jay's decision couldn't stand, you would assume you could rely on a league runner being unbiased, as I assume this will be used in the future? Or are we going to do this every time this issue comes up?

we do this everytime, the circumstances will always be different melody, unless you can forwarn us?

Surely if this same situation arises again, for mvp or another clan, the same decision would be reached, or are you planning to pick and choose depending on the clan involved?

Since a completion bonus is no longer a completion bonus (and seeing how it has been applied here), I would be very much in favor of getting rid of the completion bonus completely.

For situations where it's a player's/clan's fault that the game wasn't completed, we already have various other means to punish the player and award the opponent. We give out default points, we give a fixture win bonus, we can warn the defaulters, etc.
The completion bonus is not for this. Apply it with at least some sort of a boundary so it can't get used all the time with incomplete games. Or get rid of it.

i totally agree with seb

Finally some sense!

I'd be in agreement with that!

melody do you even know what we are voting on love?

Yes, we are going to get someone quit the game at 4 - 1 down to play a tournament, yes he will then not log on for the rest of the week and then he will log on with 2 hours remaining to find that his opponent cannot make it on that day.

Yes all defaults are different circumstances, wow, i thought you was a teacher?

Have a look at skiller10's events:
He has events on the Friday, Saturday, and Sunday leading up to the deadline. I'm not sure why you all keep bringing up 2 hours?

If you would like me to go into "teacher mode" I could inform you of the mistakes you made in that post.

By the way you voted, it's past tense and as I was not involved it can not be the plural form.

Strangely enough last time I checked "default circumstances" did not apply in the national curriculum.