[U][B]FCL: Set 2

Wolf Pack (50) v (70) Unbeatables[/U][/B]

mfc_ss (4) vs (11) deejay
dunkyfunk (10) vs (5) broxi
skunkyfool (4) vs (11) nh425
buzzboxxuk (4) vs (11) darren3
try (9) vs (6) diamond_jem
strikelucky8 (10) vs (5) fry06
w_hoolahan (5) vs (10) im_crap_adam
dextr (4) vs (11) liam__scfc

Division 2 raw results will be updated this evening

Defaults and ALL bonuses will not be included in the updated table and will be added after the defaults have been done by the defaults panel

What the **** is going on here that a league runner comes onto our thread unsettling our players!
You're bang out of order james, you expect us to behave in an appropriate manner why don't you do the same and keep your opinions to yourself!

if you have any problems, please take it up in private chat, not on the forums... if you would kindly remove your post from the LEAGUE discussion thread as your post has nothing to do with the LEAGUE at all.

Of course it has something to do with the league spoonie as it's a league runner disrupting out team and no the comment is not getting removed.

the disruption of your team or "poaching" has nothing to do with the league at all, as long as its within rules, namely the players cant change clan during seasons. Therefore, it has nothing to do with the league, regardless of whether its a league runner.

it was banter lee mate, if you want ill happily remove my post, was just a laugh thats all

removed it, was actually a compliment to scott more than anything as hes a credit to your team, i only put the switching part for a laugh

i am glad you posted here though

I know the rules spoonie there is a level of decency and respect also that players are expected to abide by that is pretty fundamental to an enjoyable league for everyone.
In fact there were some rules made very recently to restore that, a league runner posting a comment to disrupt a team or a player is so blatantly against that spirit it's ridiculous so yes this is league business.

it was a bit of banter i didn't actually mean it.

Knowing you james I will accept it wasn't intentionally to disrupt mate and i'm sure you understand my reaction after reading it back.
Thanks for sorting it.

no probs and yeah i understand

Team Matches Played Frames Won Frames Lost Frames Deducted Frame -/+ Defaults Bonus Total Points
Top Dogs 32* 280 195 0 85 0 70 350
Shooters 32 275 205 0 70 0 70 345
Unbeatables 32 257 223 0 34 0 70 327
Mouseketeers 32* 226 253 0 -27 0 50 276
Team Angry 32 204 276 0 -72 1 40 244
Wolf Pack 32 193 287 0 -94 1 30 223

*Half Played Games Included

Division 1 updated

I have read through the fbl discussion thread this morning, and feel that as an fbl league runner, and a member of the fcl default team, the matter needs to be discussed and resolved in both fbl and fcl, as it is in the interest of both leagues. It does state in the rules :
8.9.8 Number of panel inputs
No default should ever be decided without input from at least two people from the default panel, in order to keep things as fair as possible and ensure no aspects are missed. Panel members cannot judge games involving their own clan.

I am not accusing anyone of being biased, but this rule has obviously been broken on more than one occasion.
There are 9 default staff on fcl , 5 on fbl, so there is no need for a staff member of the team that is involved in the default to post predictions about the default game.

Maybe, a resolution to this problem would be for default staff/runners judge the default games that are not in their own division , though they could comment on the games if they wished, they are not permitted to give a prediction. This should then solve the problem of any person being accused of being biased, and having the same situation as we do at the moment.

usually if the teammate posts a prediction it doesn't count but normally each member i choose is not biast, i only tend to count teammate predictions is time is running on and i don't think its a biased prediction.

on snooker you can post even those on your own clan, works out pretty well and if any biasm i ignore that prediction and give that person a warning, if they do it twice they are kicked from default staff. usually majority of votes take the default anyway so even if teammates would be biased it can easily be overturned

which default member by the way?

Naming default members, who have posted predictions on their own defaults, is not needed, i think the main issue is that this doesnt happen again

I always thought and was told by the league runners that players on the default panel did not have any say in their own clans defaults, have I read right and this has been happening ?, surely not.

its only when time has been running out on us, the only one where it happened was the long_pot fixture but it was easy enough to predict.

sorry but it just shouldnt be happening, makes a farce of the default system if players are doing their own clans.

it was 1 occasion, surely if we had a guy 13 days offline during fixture and it was 4-4 its an easy call to make, no points for our clan, full points for the other.

hard to be biast on a default like that.

no farce involved