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dgeneratio
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21:40 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
wasnt about that.
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21:41 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
All he can do in a 'league runner' role at the moment is copy a list of players...hard to be biased about that
Exactly! No reason removing him then right?
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22:39 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I just want to say that I don't have a problem with the generator if its being used to speed things up and still keeping the players in the order they are sent, 1 v 1 , 2 v 2 and so on, the reason the fixtures are done like this is because of problems in the past and was changed after lots of arguing and debates on how the fixtures were done.
Im just hoping it continues to get done this way as I've got a feeling a few people will be checking with opposing captains after the fixtures are released and won't be too happy if they are being messed with. only takes 2 mins to ask the opposing captain.

As for Jay helping run the league I don't have a problem with it, its no different from James asking a friend or family member for help to do the fixtures, as long as the league is run properly and fair it shouldn't be an issue.
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22:48 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
anyway moving on...

i have asked the league runners about my eligibility idea had 2 yes's so far (not including myself as it was my idea) hopefully have a verdict tomorrow latest.



Lol what was the point of putting it out for discussion if the league runners are going to decide and not take into account the views of players in the league.

Way back league runners started doing exactly what you are doing here, which is deciding on rules you want to change and implementing them even when others were against it and it caused nothing but chaos.

The rules have been clear for lots of season, you cannot join a clan until your account is a month old and if you are not registered for the clan at start of a fixture set you can't play.

Why has something that no one has ever had a problem with now raised its head just because a league runner didn't like it.

The rule was done to try and make people think twice about deactivating and if you got banned you could not just return.
dgeneratio
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22:50 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
cheers and yeah ill make sure its right from now on, cheers guys
dgeneratio
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22:54 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
horse10000 said:
dgeneratio said:
anyway moving on...

i have asked the league runners about my eligibility idea had 2 yes's so far (not including myself as it was my idea) hopefully have a verdict tomorrow latest.



Lol what was the point of putting it out for discussion if the league runners are going to decide and not take into account the views of players in the league.

Way back league runners started doing exactly what you are doing here, which is deciding on rules you want to change and implementing them even when others were against it and it caused nothing but chaos.

The rules have been clear for lots of season, you cannot join a clan until your account is a month old and if you are not registered for the clan at start of a fixture set you can't play.

Why has something that no one has ever had a problem with now raised its head just because a league runner didn't like it.

The rule was done to try and make people think twice about deactivating and if you got banned you could not just return.

its not that i didnt like it it was bugging me, theres a difference, of course we take your feedback into account or we wouldn't be a league runner.

just thought no one will agree and had all the feedback we need to make a choice, mixed reactions is always the best as you can see flaws etc, im sure the league runners looked at all feedback before making a choice.

i dont have a say as it was my idea.
dgeneratio
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22:56 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
you still have to wait the 1 month (and if your banned its 2 months due to ban time also) was just a case of allowing them to play if your in the clan teamlist on site before that fixture started by time their month is up.

horse10000 said:

Way back league runners started doing exactly what you are doing here, which is deciding on rules you want to change and implementing them even when others were against it and it caused nothing but chaos.

wrong, i asked for feedback which is the type of runner that i am, a lot of people would just implemented it without informing the public but im not that type of person.

just because you was against doesn't mean its not to be implemented far as i can see its more 50-50.

not fussed what happens with the rule its up to league runners to decide.

Edited at 20:01 Thu 13/10/11 (BST)
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22:58 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
you still have to wait the 1 month (and if your banned its 2 months due to ban time also) was just a case of allowing them to play if your in the clan teamlist on site before that fixture started by time their month is up.


but if they arent allowed to be registered for a clan until they have had the account for 1 month then they will not be eligible for the fixture anyway surely?

and as for the case of a newbie wanting to join a clan, then they will have to wait, but im guessing most players that wish to join a clan before their 1 month period is up are deactivators. (purely my opinion)

Edited at 20:02 Thu 13/10/11 (BST)
dgeneratio
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23:03 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
jans always allow them to be registered to the teamsheet even before their month was up but they would be ineligible until their month was up.
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23:05 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
They should be allowed to register for a clan, I don't see why they shouldn't be - they'd be taking up a space so it's not like it would be abused in any way

Of course, they still shouldn't be able to play until their month is up - but I feel differentiation is needed between those who are in a clan but not having served a month - and those who decide to join halfway through a fixture
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23:14 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
ipotalot said:
All he can do in a 'league runner' role at the moment is copy a list of players...hard to be biased about that
Exactly! No reason removing him then right?


Dgens comment about 2 league runners have agreed to his idea sums it up for me, far as i'm concerned jay is banned he has no authority to make calls in a league that he doesn't play in on a site that he isn't allowed on when we can't even argue our points directly with him it's ridiculous.
On the eligibility wouldn't changing that rule make it a lot harder to keep tabs on?
Where-as it's easy enough to check a name when it's added to team changes you don't want to be checking the eligibilty of every player that gets put in every team sheet.
zantetsukenz
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23:22 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
A league runner doesn't have to play in the league.

He still would be able to get onto the site, and that doesn't impact his league runner duties - he wouldn't be able to argue the points because he can't really be greatly involved in them - theres another league runner for that and they do support each other

It could just be mentioned when that player gets officially added - they wouldn't be eligible to be put in fixture lists so it's only going to be one occurence
dgeneratio
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23:22 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
im keeping tabs from now on, ill check everyone in league tomorrow to make sure they are still eligible.
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23:23 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
jans always allow them to be registered to the teamsheet even before their month was up but they would be ineligible until their month was up.


You could not register them on the team sheet, the rules were clear you could not join a clan until your account was 1 month old.

Only players who were in clan at start of fixture could play in that fixture.

If you cannot join a clan before the day fixtures are released, why if you join after that day should you be able to play or have any input into that set of fixtures.

And i agree with ipotalot, keeping tabs on it would be ridiculous as it stands i know exactly who can play in fixture set from my clan and i also know players who can play in fixture set from other clan. It is straightforward and same for all, why change something that is working and has worked for 7 or 8 seasons now.
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23:25 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
mrmtp said:
dgeneratio said:
you still have to wait the 1 month (and if your banned its 2 months due to ban time also) was just a case of allowing them to play if your in the clan teamlist on site before that fixture started by time their month is up.


but if they arent allowed to be registered for a clan until they have had the account for 1 month then they will not be eligible for the fixture anyway surely?

and as for the case of a newbie wanting to join a clan, then they will have to wait, but im guessing most players that wish to join a clan before their 1 month period is up are deactivators. (purely my opinion)

Edited at 20:02 Thu 13/10/11 (BST)


Exactly mrmtp
dgeneratio
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23:28 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
you dont get me though, jan did it 4 seasons ago and 7 or 8 seasons is only around 50%.

was an idea nothing more but people agreed (or most) and seems the league runners agree.
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23:32 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i nearly at a month so i got wait to join a clan.
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23:34 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
you dont get me though, jan did it 4 seasons ago and 7 or 8 seasons is only around 50%.

was an idea nothing more but people agreed (or most) and seems the league runners agree.


Jan has never allowed a player who had not been a member for 1 month join a fixture set half way through or allow them to be included in the team sheet for that fixture.
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23:39 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
not on about fixture i mean teamsheet.
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