LOL my amigo... legend!!!

Table amended

Wonder what is the best thing to do to get the games played against UB is not that they don't wanna play is they just run out of player's any thoughts on what we can do?

not much you can do but a proposal for a rule change for next season

5.6 Substituted players' eligibility
A player who has been substituted is eligible to play in any other game of that fixture unless they have played or started a game in same fixture. This does not apply to other league and cup fixtures being played at the same time. A substitution is considered official from the moment the captain has posted it in the substitution thread.

thats how it is in FCL and it works to cut defaults down, if FBL had it then could limit defaults you may have

Good idea

that rule would be fbl's biggest dream and would stop the defaults

unlimited subs and swaps like the FCL would also help

wouldn't stop them entirely but i would say it should be cut by at least 50%, throw abs idea in there too and would lower defaults even more

Really against this idea for FBL it works for FCL because the games are all the same format the joys of FBL is that you haven't got a clue where the other teams strongest players will be playing and what game type to put your best in.
This would just lead to tactical swaps and is unnecessary. FBL games are quick 15/20 minutes except straight. You have 15 players to get games done shouldn't be any problems.

Unlimited subs and swaps would not be good for this league i feel.

What i would like feedback on is:

1.. 2 swaps per clan per fixture.

2.. Allowing a subbed player to be eligible to be subbed back into either of the games. (discipline).

Edited at 03:51 Sat 07/01/12 (GMT)

I don't see any harm in allowing two swaps per fixture, can only decrease the amount of defaults that have been coming in as of late.

Same with the subbing back into a game, any discipline would help greatly with some teams and again more than likely lessen the default count.

Both totally unnecessary in my opinion if the 8 players that you pick can't find 15 minutes each in a fortnight to play games then you have a sub available for every single one of them.
As I said before it will just be used tactically and there shouldn't be any problems getting games done, maybe people are leaving games to the last minute to get a weaker sub or keeping players in their squad that aren't active but there is no excuse with the current set up not to get games done.

That is my fear over implementing to many changes to the sub/swap system here because people will become tactical.

Suggestion 2 actually reads wrongly it is meant to be back into that format only.

Example

8uk
ipotalot vs its_me
scott7a vs chalkie35

its_me is subbed out for doubted2

its_me can if needed be subbed back into the scott7a game or the original.

Can still pick your match ups that way though dex and you know yourself as a captain there shouldn't be any problems getting games played with the rules as they are in FBL would take away the point of random draws in my opinion.

5.2.1 Swaps
You may not use substitutions to gain a more favorable fixture. Swaps are not allowed except in case of a time zone/availability issue.
Both captains must agree to a swap.
This applies only to swaps within the same game type. (Ex.: A player in an arcade game may be swapped with a player in an original game in the same fixture. However, a player in an arcade game may not be swapped with the player in the other arcade game in the same fixture).

from snooker rules, possibly use that?

What if the 2 arcade players cannot get online the same time as their opponents due to time zone, they can't be swapped ?
eg ..
8uk
player1(uk) v player 2 (usa)
player3(usa) v player4 (uk),

surely if the games werent getting played due to time zone it would make sense to swap within the same game type ?

it says they can if an opponent is unreliable or timezone issue.

both captains would have to agree to a swap.

on snooker we have unlimited swaps and subs, works a treat as normally we only get about 3 defaults max per set

i am happy with idea no 2, will save the prob that one team has atm, where its likely a game will go to default, because the player they wanted to sub back into the game, cant be because the game he was subbed out of has been played.
i definately think that players should only be allowed to sub back into same discipline though.
Do we need 2 swaps though ? i think its best left at 1

Edited at 16:15 Sat 07/01/12 (GMT)

i thought the aim is to have few defaults as possible? my personal opinion is keeping as it is (old FCL rules) then you would have tons of defaults, thats reason FCL got changed and was mostly the problem of not being able to sub in once you have subbed out.

if runners think a clan trying to get a favourable fixture then cancel the sub that was made, if both captains agree to subs in same game mode then shouldn't be any arguing about game fixing as normally captains put you in the type that your best at anyway

What would happen then if one of the captains doesnt agree ? Unnecessary arguments will happen.
Unlimited swaps and subs, cant see this working, there would be no point in having a random draw , players would just be swapped and subbed tactically