I'm not sure why you're so keen on kicking clans out.

"Corrupt" means someone wanted us to make this decision and caused those who decided to favor them. Not a good accusation to make.

Yes I used their past reliability. Odds are they'll get through the season again. the majority of the default team agreed, which is what matters.

Was them getting 12/16 defaults that got them booted wouldn't have mattered about any previous if they had 13/16.
These teams got 11/16 wouldn't even have been remotely considered if you want to use that as an example.

Edited at 00:48 Wed 19/10/11 (BST)

Why focus on one part constantly? corrupt means lacking integrity and I think this decision was made for totally the wrong reasons to make it easier for league runners rather than based on who had put in the effort and deserved their places.

Ok, you and the default team obviously had different criteria for deciding who goes through. The default team decides in this case and the decision will certainly not be changed.

The whole of FCL and FBL leagues 'criteria' has always been the amount of games managed in the pre-season reliability friendlies before.
To be fair you really shouldn't have any more say in this than anybody on a team seb you aren't a league runner and defaults only certainly doesn't mean making decisions on who gets into the league.

Simple fact is not one of you can argue 11/16 games is enough...What a joke of a setup

The cut off was 12/16 for pre season

These clans got 11/16 +1 partially played match and thats why previous was taken into account.
You must remember that this is for fun and enjoyment its not the Olympics or the World Cup so why be so overzealous ?

Interesting. I was under the impression that the defaults team does make this decision.

And it is as seb said, its part of their job description.

What does playing one frame of straight out of 3 have to do with anything? 'game will be classed as incomplete' by kermit's own words on this thread.
It's not being overzealous, it's a ridiculous decision 12/16 is a really low cut off point anyway achievable easily by 6 active players, there are 15 players in a clan!!
We had 15 active players who would have all completed a match each easily if crazzymadman had an opponent.
Shooters had no eligible player in 1 game for 14 days, used an illegal sub because they didn't have any legal player to sub in, kept players in who were offline for over week because they had no subs big_mouse asking 3 times for a sub and not even getting an explanation and used 2 unregistered players.
Even after all that all they had to do to get 12/16 done was use their swap so whose fault is it they didn't make 12/16?! Not anyone elses but their own.

Defaults only means they work out 'defaults only' clues in the title there!

lol you're wrong mate. The defaults team takes care of exactly what the league runner says it should take care of.
That includes the pre-season friendlies.

Point is- it was a decision made by loads of people, not just 1. They were from various clans. And the decision is final, whether there are other opinions or not.
Right now, it's just more fighting and bickering over something that won't be changed.

You haven't worked out any defaults seb because there are no scores in these games!
Kev and dgen made the decisions on who got in the league for FCL before not people who are just there for defaults.
It is obviously a league runner's job

Loads of people? 3?
When has anyone with 11/16 pre-season games played got into any of these leagues before?

Input was from 4 members of staff. 3/1 in favour. END

edit: what he said^

Because it is a stupid decision made for totally the wrong reasons.
Cut off points were 13/16 then 12/16 now people with 11/16 played are getting in even though clan sizes have increased and you can't answer any point with any reasonable explanation to a whole list of arguments other than 'we've made our decision and it's final.;

Mouseketeers (15/16)
Top Dogs (15/16)
Shooters Revenge (15/16)
Vipers (14/16)
Cobras (14/16)
Crazy 8's (14/16)
Untouchables (14/16)
Unbeatables (14/16)
Fraggles (13/16)

Wolf Pack (7/8)
Team Angry (7/8)

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Pool Sharks (12/16)


There wouldn't have been any debate with an 11/16 and nor should there obviously you lot don't have a clue if you think there is any argument there!

Wow 4 people came to a crazy decision because they couldn't work out how to do the leagues then!
That's the wrong reason!!

Decision was made prior to the division set up.