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13:59 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
if captains could vote it would be helpful about TLK ill talk to kenny but we may be applying another rule about defaults.
rather it be done by today so if you want it we can put it in motion and not left until last minute like yesterday.
ill wait until tonight for more feedback and talk through with kenny if he comes online later tonight
horse10000 said:
I cant see what is so hard to fix, all you need to do is apply the rules, which would mean removing TLK from the league.
And then allow an extra couple of days for the extension that was given to the rest of the teams. This should never have been done but it has so apply some common sense, extend it till wednesday night or something and then move on. But all teams that finish games in extension they are illegible for the bonus points if they end up completing in this time.
Doesn't seem too hard, would love to see if anyone else agrees with this.
And then allow an extra couple of days for the extension that was given to the rest of the teams. This should never have been done but it has so apply some common sense, extend it till wednesday night or something and then move on. But all teams that finish games in extension they are illegible for the bonus points if they end up completing in this time.
Doesn't seem too hard, would love to see if anyone else agrees with this.
fraz_viper said:
OK please would all captains vote on this thread as to weather to extend div 1 only has they have been caught up in a mess till 11.59pm tuesday the 29th of march.
if there is enough votes to agree by the majority kenny will reopen fixtures for div 1 olny as they got caught in cross fire so div 1 caps only need to vote thankyou.
if there is enough votes to agree by the majority kenny will reopen fixtures for div 1 olny as they got caught in cross fire so div 1 caps only need to vote thankyou.
if captains could vote it would be helpful about TLK ill talk to kenny but we may be applying another rule about defaults.
rather it be done by today so if you want it we can put it in motion and not left until last minute like yesterday.
ill wait until tonight for more feedback and talk through with kenny if he comes online later tonight
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16:46 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
me and andyw1 are both online now. Should we play our fixture or not? This is the exact reason you can't go back on a decision once it's made!
16:48 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
go ahead
choice will be the extension more likely.
once you have played let me know and i can input score and post that your game has been played on defaults page.
Edited at 13:51 Mon 28/03/11 (BST)
choice will be the extension more likely.
once you have played let me know and i can input score and post that your game has been played on defaults page.
Edited at 13:51 Mon 28/03/11 (BST)
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16:55 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
Cheers James.
dgeneratio said:
go ahead
choice will be the extension more likely.
once you have played let me know and i can input score and post that your game has been played on defaults page.
Edited at 13:51 Mon 28/03/11 (BST)
choice will be the extension more likely.
once you have played let me know and i can input score and post that your game has been played on defaults page.
Edited at 13:51 Mon 28/03/11 (BST)
Cheers James.
16:59 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
looks like its all for the extension so far, so if we have no negative feedback/more votes for extension tonight by div 1 captains then i will talk to kenny (providing he comes online) and we can do the extension (probably for wednesday).
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17:18 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
Extension, and what is the rule about defaults you are making?
17:20 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
way we are looking kenny and myself was talking and we said if a clan get more than 6 defaults in 2 fixtures in a row then the clan should be automatically kicked out.
not final by all means but its a rough idea.
not final by all means but its a rough idea.
17:58 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
extension granted.
division 1 now has an extension for clan games until wednesday 30th March, 10 pm GMT.
Any games played during these time period will count but bonuses won't be added.
thanks
division 1 now has an extension for clan games until wednesday 30th March, 10 pm GMT.
Any games played during these time period will count but bonuses won't be added.
thanks
20:26 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
Division 1? Wasn't this just caused by a division 2 team? What happened in division 1?
I think a stricter rule(s) should be in place, not just in a row but say:
- 6 defaults in one fixture set on more than one occasion
- or (In a season of 6 fixture sets - 96 games) more than 20 defaults over the course of a season
- or more than 9 defaults in one fixture set
leads to a kick out, because all the work done by previous league staff in regards to rules for reducing defaults (which i know janmb personally put a lot of work into) just goes out of the window when teams are getting 11 defaults in one set and staying in
dgeneratio said:
way we are looking kenny and myself was talking and we said if a clan get more than 6 defaults in 2 fixtures in a row then the clan should be automatically kicked out.
not final by all means but its a rough idea.
not final by all means but its a rough idea.
I think a stricter rule(s) should be in place, not just in a row but say:
- 6 defaults in one fixture set on more than one occasion
- or (In a season of 6 fixture sets - 96 games) more than 20 defaults over the course of a season
- or more than 9 defaults in one fixture set
leads to a kick out, because all the work done by previous league staff in regards to rules for reducing defaults (which i know janmb personally put a lot of work into) just goes out of the window when teams are getting 11 defaults in one set and staying in
20:29 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
nothing much but few teams told their players about extension (due to TLK) and then after disagreements original deadline was in place and they only found out about an hour before end of the deadline so allowed 2 more days.
20:34 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
Ah, seems fair enough but wouldn't the deadline be just for div 2? (Although i can understand its easy to overlook whether it was stated or not)
Dont want to sound like i'm having a go, just enquiring to be clear on the situation
I think weds deadline is a reasonable compromise, a slight overlap has been fine in the past
Dont want to sound like i'm having a go, just enquiring to be clear on the situation
I think weds deadline is a reasonable compromise, a slight overlap has been fine in the past
20:35 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
is T.L.K in a safe enough position to carry on?
20:37 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
its just for div 1 atm but i dont mind giving div 2 until wed too but i would have to talk to kenny first to make sure.
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20:37 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
The confusion for us was that it was a general extension that was given mate. Had it been stated it was just for Div 2 then there would have been no confusion, I see your point though.
zantetsukenz said:
Ah, seems fair enough but wouldn't the deadline be just for div 2? (Although i can understand its easy to overlook whether it was stated or not)
Dont want to sound like i'm having a go, just enquiring to be clear on the situation
I think weds deadline is a reasonable compromise, a slight overlap has been fine in the past
Dont want to sound like i'm having a go, just enquiring to be clear on the situation
I think weds deadline is a reasonable compromise, a slight overlap has been fine in the past
The confusion for us was that it was a general extension that was given mate. Had it been stated it was just for Div 2 then there would have been no confusion, I see your point though.
20:38 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
were currently talking about that
_pro__frog_ said:
is T.L.K in a safe enough position to carry on?
were currently talking about that
22:05 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
div 2 also has an extension until wednesday 10 pm GMT.
we felt it was fair as we gave div 1 an extension too.
cheers
we felt it was fair as we gave div 1 an extension too.
cheers
22:42 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
TLK have 11 of there 16 games going to default. This is more than all the other teams in the league put together, how can the league runners think this is just a blip and it will be ok, do they not think about the other 13 teams who have completed nearly all of their fixtures?
The idea above is ok in principle but i would prefer to see a league where all games that go to default are scrutinised and any team found not to make subs etc or have inactive players whom they don't sub out get punished as this means the clan is not getting run properly.
zantetsukenz said:
Division 1? Wasn't this just caused by a division 2 team? What happened in division 1?
I think a stricter rule(s) should be in place, not just in a row but say:
- 6 defaults in one fixture set on more than one occasion
- or (In a season of 6 fixture sets - 96 games) more than 20 defaults over the course of a season
- or more than 9 defaults in one fixture set
leads to a kick out, because all the work done by previous league staff in regards to rules for reducing defaults (which i know janmb personally put a lot of work into) just goes out of the window when teams are getting 11 defaults in one set and staying in
dgeneratio said:
way we are looking kenny and myself was talking and we said if a clan get more than 6 defaults in 2 fixtures in a row then the clan should be automatically kicked out.
not final by all means but its a rough idea.
not final by all means but its a rough idea.
I think a stricter rule(s) should be in place, not just in a row but say:
- 6 defaults in one fixture set on more than one occasion
- or (In a season of 6 fixture sets - 96 games) more than 20 defaults over the course of a season
- or more than 9 defaults in one fixture set
leads to a kick out, because all the work done by previous league staff in regards to rules for reducing defaults (which i know janmb personally put a lot of work into) just goes out of the window when teams are getting 11 defaults in one set and staying in
TLK have 11 of there 16 games going to default. This is more than all the other teams in the league put together, how can the league runners think this is just a blip and it will be ok, do they not think about the other 13 teams who have completed nearly all of their fixtures?
The idea above is ok in principle but i would prefer to see a league where all games that go to default are scrutinised and any team found not to make subs etc or have inactive players whom they don't sub out get punished as this means the clan is not getting run properly.
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22:49 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
the league runners are in talks as we speak about this weather or not t,l,k should even be allowed in fcl and weather or not they should be disqulified and look to get right for next season, also maybe new rules comeing in to stop this happening again.
well thats what kenny says he is working so hard to try and get a strong leugue back and run smooth.
well thats what kenny says he is working so hard to try and get a strong leugue back and run smooth.
22:53 Mon 28 Mar 11 (BST) [Link]
well i think to make everyone get more games played there should be a bonus points of 10 points up for grabs if finished first week
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