their game load was the same as ours and everyone elses, weve got a game not played, doesnt that mean we should have extended time to play it ? no it doesnt, it means one of us gets a default win (more than likely you). they dont deserve extended time just like we dont.

anyway, dgen said he'll make a decision tonight so we'll just have to wait.

Yeah ang i agree.

But even then it is not 100% that all the unplayed games would be 15 - 0, i remember Crazy Eights first ever season we played i can't remember haha but there player was off for 13 days no sub was made and we won on default 12 - 3 or 11 - 4 one of the two anyway. Think its the fact that all games to be 15 - 0 would be very unfair and a massive fight would break out, there is already to much arguements going around we dont need a big one starting

Option 1 - Not an option if you want a fair competition.

Option 2 - I don't agree it makes it a farce. Over the course of a season it will even out. Defaults are a fact of clan life and as long as they are applied fairly and within the rules and guidelines for all, then that's fine.

Option 3 - Now they are in, they need to be given every chance to succeed. If they fail all their scores will be removed anyway.

Therefore no unnecessary rule changes mid season, no extensions and proper defaults to be awarded (even if there are 4 or 5 15-0's).

I still believe there would be no harm in looking at a new rule between seasons stating something along the lines that 'any clan failing to complete a set percentage of their games (50%, 60%, 75% or whatever) during a fixture period will be removed immediately'.

But a few 15 - 0's scores could cost another clan who had a good chance to win the league to not win it, while they have to play the new formed TLK that smurf has got now.

Dgen has last say in it anyway and i also think death_viper shoudl have a say to as he buiilt the website and any post from league runner has his name in it so he should be asked to and a decision that is fair on all clans should be made.

it wont cost another clan, each team plays each other twice so who ends up at the top will deserve to be there, all each clan can do is win there games and not to worry about other clans

Yeah liam but TLK in first fixtures have not played what 5 games in each there is 75 points to each clan.

so just means we have to beat them heavily when we play them thats all

if kenny shows up later ill talk to him first.

And that can happen at any time of the season and in any division and involving any teams - that's why there are rules there to fairly decide the default scores. To look at ways round it discuss rule changes at the end of the season. Not during a season, and certainly not in a fixture period where some teams have already finished their games.

Nice to see people are actually trying to work it out and not argue

I have typed that much my fingers hurt haha

Luckily my new phone can detect sarcasm

Option 2- make league a farce

its not only one or 2 games going to default here, its 11 out of 16, its one clan getting up to 90 points from defaults and rightly so, but its just not fair on the other clans who have to now play basically a new TLK, all other clans might have to play all the games against TLK and only get 60/70 points if they win,
some might think thats alright but I believe that will make Div 2 a farce.

Well if Team Angry would actually consider playing through the extension then that 90 points scenario won't happen

I think in usual circumstances, 11 defaults in one fixture set should be an automatic kick-out, because that just says that they shouldn't be in the league, if 2 defaults in one season against the same player means that they could recieve a league ban, 11 in one set all against one clan should be a ban for that clan (or at least until the following pre-season)

This though looks like they've got themselves sorted for the next fixture set (and if not, then they'll be removed and not too much harm is done)

However, if you're going to extend the deadline for this week (which should be for everyone for the sake of fairness) would it not make sense to delay the next set of fixtures (I know its a bit late now but they could be paused or something)

Stops complications occurring, and if a clan can only play 5 out of 16 games in 2 weeks how can you expect them to play 27 in the next 2 weeks?

since kenny logged out before i could talk ive decided that we should stick to the rules (sorry its late) after reading feedback i realise that now.

about TLK, ill give them 1 more chance, i know they have lots of defaults but if they dont then they will have to be kicked out.

cheers.

so after ive told my players that deadlines been moved and they've arranged it for durin the week, i find out with 45mins left before deadline, that deadline is 2night...i realise it might be unfair or whatever, but how fair is it when im told one thing, pass the message round, then last minute im told its changed back :S what chance have TD now got of gettin them played...

why cant everyone be happy

ok then well how about wednesday deadline then? cuz its hardly fair to keep changin minds and rules and what not...and 45mins before deadline lol, cant expect a team to get 5 games done in 45mins surely :S...all i ask for is a chance, extra 3 days