Yeh just been told by jan myself

but i think what the heck let you do what you please not my clan league let you do what you do...

not my league either mate.

When were the Cup fixtures released?

It would've been nice for a message! To say so.

few days ago, i posted to check clan news.

last season i made 3 subs in the cup against Cobras straight away....... then they wouldnt allow me to change them back, this was because the league runners lost the team list. we lost the match because of un-played games


cobras v sharpshooters

perfect play back in after being subbed out

again one rule for one, oops i forgot, anything goes towards the x-banned user or newbie player

This is a totally different case. Similar to the ron_jon_surf incident where poolsharks didn't know whether he was in or not, perfect_play advised us he had no internet connection so we took the precaution and subbed him but soon found out his problem had been fixed and cancelled the sub, like poolsharks did.

You on the other hand wanted to cancel subs on the last day of the fixture when you'd made them 5 days before.

Can I ask if the 'undoing of subs' is allowed as it doesnt seem to be anywhere? In fact if anything what I have read appears to state it isn't, but anyway...

Only asking because we subbed crazzymadman out of our games early on due to personal issues but fortunately he has now been back available to play and because we are short of numbers this might give us options to explore for getting our last games played.

Thanks

i can ask jan for you if you like.

Rule 5.6 forbids subbing subbed out players back into ANY OTHER game in that match. This rule is in place to prevent clans from exploiting subs to shuffle players around to better match the team list from the opposing clan.

We have no rules preventing clans from subbing a subbed out player back into the same game they were originally assigned to.
We have precedent for this from last season too, much the same scenario Chris describes for crazzy, and the wording of rule 5.6 is deliberate to allow this precise issue.

We did make one mistake of short-sightedness when it comes to Cobras though, going back on subs in terms of subbing the subbed out player back into the same game is fine, but undoing the sub, as if it never happened is not the right way for us to do this.

First of all, should the games go to default, the activity for the "temporary" player should count in that time frame, not just the original player's.

Secondly, a "temporary" player who gets subbed out of a game should not be eligible for play in any other game in that match, according to the very same rule - 5.6.

So to confirm..... hopefully.....

I could sub crazzy back in for me as it's his original game however I wouldn't be able to then play in any other game?

Or as someone not in the original team list can I still play elsewhere, if crazzy comes back in, since I don't have an original fixture that I am 'only' tied to?

Just spoken to Jan about it and from what he's told me, once you, Chris, have been subbed in and then subbed out you won't be allowed to be subbed back in for a second time

Edit: but crazzy can be subbed back into his original fixture

OK Thanks

so can we sub players back in or not??

i think fixture swaps are allowed but subbing back in is not but im not 100% sure on this, i will ask Jan tomorrow as he is off for the evening.

The original player can be subbed back into his/her original fixture but, in effect, it is treated as a new sub.

If that player is subbed back in, then the first sub cannot be then subbed again into any other game in that same match

And the prize for plain English goes to....



Swapping is something completely different

I'm sure if thats wrong someone will correct me

mmmm like i said ,,, funny it cudnt be changed last season when i made 3 quick subs, as the league made a mistake with the team list, 3 games went to default because original players couldnt go back in,

didnt cobras go through and mmm win the cup
just love it dont you,

total joke,
Rule
5.6 forbids subbing subbed out players back into ANY OTHER game in that match. This rule is in place to prevent clans from exploiting subs to shuffle players around to better match the team list from the opposing clan.

We have no rules preventing clans from subbing a subbed out player back into the same game they were originally assigned to.

mmm 3 players in the cup last season couldve been subbed back in , why was this not pointed out, by the prodical son

janmb, potty or dgen please log in i need a word with you ASAP

i see the default between mtk v jordanwake aint changed at all from the 10-5 win

i dunno how it aint got changed so here are a few rules from the default section

8.5 Most important factor
Defaults are largely based on how much each player has contributed towards getting their game played.
in jordans case none at all

8.9.3 Messaging
A player having messaged their opponent to arrange a time to play counts favourably for that player.
in mtks case none at all

8.9.4 Failure to respond
Failure to respond to a message (particularly if having logged in in the meantime) goes against the receiving player.
i dont see where this has gone against jordan

8.9.5 Not using substitutions
A clan failing to use their option of substituting a player into the game within the deadline counts negatively.
i dont see where this has gone against jordan

8.9.9 Ignoring opponents
All league players are expected to be sporting and seek to get league games played - despite personal differences with their opponents. Players who are ignoring their opponents or otherwise refusing to play a certain opponent will be heavily punished for this lack of sportsmanship in the case of defaults.

once again i dont see where this as gone against jordan

well we all agreed to stick with the same score.

i dont see why your complaining, you got the 10-5 win, jordan was active as well which must count, in fact they was nearly the same, and jordan was punished because he got a lower score because mtk made the most effort to play.

All the effort, hence it should be all of the points. A player could be on 24/7, not alot I can do if they are gonna ignore me for the duration of the fixture is there! It's really not a difficult concept.