think you find it was 7 days, yes the sub was posted on the official subs page late, as was busy with work so making subs official on a pool game aint to important really, the sub was made with more than enough time to get the game played there player then did not appear for the rest of the fixtures, but we still end up losing the game.

whats the point in being able to make subs when the outcome of them is irelevant to the default system, with this system you are using it easy to con it so to speak, if a player is on alot they then dont need to make an effort to play there game even if the other player is trying to make the effort the more active player will be awarded the win by default? so no matter how many messages they send all the active players needs to do is avoid the player who is less active and prob win the game.

...and the only message sent was top_hat_cat to gold_fish (without a reply)

just an idea.. but i think you should seperate the cup scores from the league scores..

it is more bias towards players from teams that reach further in the cup meaning that its more likely their players would win the top scorer trophy.

The teams which reach further in the cup are the teams with the better players. This means those players are more likely to win the golden cue anyway. Separating this would do little, as the players that dont get as far in the cup, have less chance of winning regardless.

i mean seperating the cup from the top scorers.. because this enables the "better" players to get more points that they should have anyway. what about "better" players that chose to stick with a not so successful clan?

It shouldn't have to matter which clan you are in for a 'golden cue' award, because its the individuals achievement, not the clans

Everyone should have an even chance regardless of which clan they are in

and the TOP SCORER award.

^should be a cup and a league top scorer i think (like most if not all sports)

can we have a discussion and get this changed please, i believe this is unfair for both:

golden cue award
top scorer award

golden cue is being done over christmas...i think but not 100% sure on that.

for last season we always had golden cue (points per game) and top scorer (most frames won).

I agree with the appeal but most of time the defaults are accurate and correct, you can message janmb or myself if you feel a default has been done incorrectly and we may open the default.

liam the score went 8-7 to nutters in the end even though bazz has more absence than gold_fish.

true zante but once a clan folds all games must be removed (cup being exception) which means golden cue has to be wiped also unfortunately.



good idea actually, if you send your idea to jan, worst you can get is a no so can't really do any harm.

it can be flawed though as whoever gets furthest has better chance of winning.

An update regarding this discussion:

The top scorers table now only includes league games.

Golden cue still includes both as it is on a points per game basis and the amount of games you play is irrelevant but you must have played 5 or more games to be included in this list.

Sorry if it's a new subject but I was wondering what the situation was on substitutes for matches that have already started but abonded mid match?

not allowed mate, once match has started no turning back.

Anyway this could be changed for the next season? If not whats the reasoning behind this rule?

I can see people leaving half way through if losing really badly and not refusing to play the rest.

Just for a bit of clarfication, once the pre-season friendlies are completed, and the teams are confirmed, is the league going to be split into two divisions, or kept as one large league? Sorry if this has already been made clear millions of times

mabye add rewards for completing a clan game lose / win with no defualts that game

14 teams, 1 division? Don't think so

And Elliott that rule was brought in last season, 5 point bonus for no defaults

hey guys how about a rule to stop people joining a clan then when a better offer comes along asking us to let them leave and join that clan its happened too many times to us and i dont think its fair

I agree, this should be a rule, however only when the actual league starts.

So from the start date of the first FCL league game (not pre-season friendly)

Ends on the last day of last FCL league game.