The following is for your information - it is NOT debateble and I will not reply to any moaning about this:

1: The league has no rule against a currently or formerly banned user being part of a clan, as captain, vice, or regular member.
2: The league has no concrete rules pertaining the requirement to captains in terms of experience. League runners will at their discretion typically discourage or refuse clans that have too fresh captains, but that is at our discretion and again with the sole purpose of serving league needs. We want to avoid captains who can't do a good job in that role. Kev most certainly does not fall into that category - in fact quite the opposite

3: kev04 is a new account which is subject to the 1 month account age rule and that's all there is to it. As soon as he reaches 1 month he is free to play games for that clan and have any role in that clan they see fit.


In conclusion, clans are essentially free to do as they darn well please - as long as it doesn't break league rules or otherwise cause problems for the league.

We are not a morality police like you seem to think we ought to be. We care about having the league work well, and that's ALL the league is and should ever be concerned with. We have more than enough funkypool staff to take care of funkypool rules - that's none of our business or concern.

I Actually agree with doubted

You cannot let a new user join a clan straight away just because they were an old account let alone have him run the clan. I think it should not be 1 rule for 1 person and everyone have the same rule. If Kev can do it then why cant other clans get players in instantly instead of the 1 or 2 month rule?

However if kev is subjected to the 2 month rule like the rest of us, i see this fair.

subs can made by captains or vice captains now its newbies and x banned users aswell anyone really jan if it suites you.

a reliable capt is one who gets banned midway through a season and lets his team down, read the chaos it caused with all the infighting

please explain today jan what a relable captain is please.

oooh i forgot you also have had your posting rights revoked

mmmmm lets set the standards high

Perhaps you should focus more on the subject rather than having a go at an individual member.

Lets put this into perspective, I'm not the first member to return from a ban and be able to help their clan. Jay from Crazy Eights did it twice, returning directly to captain, but you said nothing then?

I don't profess to being captain, podgoricanin is. I am just there to help the clan get games played while I wait for my account to become elligible. So why the big fuss? Refusing to play games saying you're tired and then carrying on for the next hour arguing with people when you could've played the game, gone to sleep and none of this would have.

I seem to be missing something here...I don't see why it matters how other clans chose to run themselves...if Cobras happy with the situation that should be that surely. Certainly should not be something that falls under league management, would seem to be a slippery slope if that became the case.

Craig, I don't see how resigning has done anything other than punish yourself and your team. Why does kev04 running things matter that much? Understand the banned user thing but he has served his ban and should be allowed to return. Does it make any difference if kev posts or gets someone else to for the next month?

I do feel that it is completely wrong to have a go at jan. He should be applauded for the time and effort put into the league for our benefit not publicly shot down!

true bumble, kev isnt the captain at the moment until he is eligible, but he surely should be allowed to post.

just to confirm, how other clans run is none of our business and you are expected to play your games instead of refusing subs or putting each other on ignore.

captains and vice captains make subs not newbies with no experience end of you were making subs end of fact newbie

totally agree bumble with your comments, the fact is he is a newbie trying to sub me out of games , he has no authourity to do so

dgen

i put them on ignore as i was in a tournament ,,

which both were well aware of , somthing that seems to be overlooked or are you saying whilst in tournaments its ok for people to tell you to quit an unimportant tournament to play a clan game, then get snotty i then put them both on ignore, until the end of the tournament,,,,,,,, and you say that is unreasonable mmmmmmm

Once again, acting dumb? I've played in the last 2 clan seasons so don't know what you're talking about

i dont get why it matters so much craig whats the big deal we all know its kev's clan.

no someone called kevross played for 2 seasons , not kev04.

your account states youve under a month on here, i guess you no that,

how can you make or advise a vice captain to sub a captain out of a clan which has nothing to do with you, i ask again are you a captain or vice captain ? simply the answer is no

however the runners support newbies running teams

heres where your discussion comes into it craig, kev isnt playing in the league until his account is 1 month old however he can be in the clan roster until this time.

Didn't realise they were different PEOPLE lol, news to my ears

sorry have i missed somthing are you the same kevross who proved unreliable by getting banned last season

the word unreliable is clear

who is now suddenly above all rules

no 1 month account
can make subs
pester players whilst in games

and has the full support of the league runners

and can he make subs, ??

no

like i said ANYONE can make subs, if its posted in subs thread its offical.

anyone?

5.4 Deadline for substitutions
Substitutions may be done at any time during each fixture. Captains are encouraged to make their substitutions as early as possible though, leaving as much time for the game to be played as possible. The timing of any substitutions made is considered in a defaulted game (see Rule 8.9.6)

well we know kev04 is kevross but if he isbeing the captain shouldnt happen

I know rule bending has happened in this league

But if kev hes advising nothing wrong with it!

Doubted by leaving you make yourself look really daft mate just get playing again!

Anyone CAN make a sub, but it is of course formally considered a captain decision.

However, we never have had a rule against the captain delegating or using others in the clan as a spokesperson, nor has there ever been a season where ALL clans announced all their subs directly from their captain.

Edited at 17:14 Sun 28/11/10 (GMT)