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04:50 Mon 21 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
I think the point danny is making is this

If your opponent pm's you and says fancy playing and u know full well you are in the tourny theres two choices say yes an disregard the tourny or say no can we play ( weds ) instead dont just go play the tourny an be rude after starting games.


saves any issues then but a rule might be a worthy addition id like to see more feedback before a descision is made though.
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06:28 Mon 21 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
dont think it is logical to bring in a rule for common courtesy

if someone ignores you then would that automatically go against them if the match went to default???

if so, i feel that is punishment enough
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06:35 Mon 21 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
zantetsukenz said:
_k1rk_ said:
As i was always told especially from the warney situation was that if a player left then it would have to go to default and players cant forfeit the clan game.

So in theory it doesnt matter if someone leaves middway through a clan match to a tournament, however if they are in the middle of the frame them i believe that frame is forfeited as it is not due to lag.

Just my opinion of course.

Warney deactivated though, or left


No he just left middway throught the game, he didnt deactivate till a good few weeks if not months after.
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22:47 Mon 21 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Hello, as this is a discussion thread, I thought I might put my idea down in here, this may be a silly idea but its all in fairness and loyalty.

Right my idea is;

In every clan, there are always players you want to keep, as long as you can, sometimes a "bigger and better" clan comes along and poaches them, so.....

Have "like" a contract nothing law abidding, just a clause in the league, once a player has joined and said they have joined, in the transfer window, after the seasons over or if they are a free agent then from whenever. This is to ensure loyalty, espcially when you sign a player, a free agent or another player in the transfer window, and then 5 minutes later, he/she says, after saying they would play and posting on the forum, "actually, I have had an offer I can't refuse".

So in all, if a player joins a clan, they should post, saying, how many seasons they will comitte themselves, if more than 1, and that means they can't sign for anyone else.

If they deactivate, then they can't play for the rest of the season anyway.


Anyways thanks for reading, if you think this is stupid please don't just slag this off, just say, I don't think this will work, but it might help us smaller div 2 teams.


Thanks

Chris

Edit: Sorry for the spelling
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22:57 Mon 21 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
cphaynes said:
Hello, as this is a discussion thread, I thought I might put my idea down in here, this may be a silly idea but its all in fairness and loyalty.

Right my idea is;

In every clan, there are always players you want to keep, as long as you can, sometimes a "bigger and better" clan comes along and poaches them, so.....

Have "like" a contract nothing law abidding, just a clause in the league, once a player has joined and said they have joined, in the transfer window, after the seasons over or if they are a free agent then from whenever. This is to ensure loyalty, espcially when you sign a player, a free agent or another player in the transfer window, and then 5 minutes later, he/she says, after saying they would play and posting on the forum, "actually, I have had an offer I can't refuse".

So in all, if a player joins a clan, they should post, saying, how many seasons they will comitte themselves, if more than 1, and that means they can't sign for anyone else.

If they deactivate, then they can't play for the rest of the season anyway.


Anyways thanks for reading, if you think this is stupid please don't just slag this off, just say, I don't think this will work, but it might help us smaller div 2 teams.


Thanks

Chris

Edit: Sorry for the spelling


I actually like that rule but downside people will de-activate and make a new account
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23:05 Mon 21 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Yes, I was thinking that, but then the 2 month rule really does help that. but thanks for the reply
viking4life
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00:01 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
It is good idea man but committ them to one season at a time so if they start they have to finish with who they sign with or they dont play!! Im sure by now we pretty much know the ones deactivating once a week coming back as a newbie virts killing folks just have to use better judgement and not sign em unless we know they got a history of loyalty . still you are on to something man to many people coming and going not playing there games stiffing us in defaults i definately give my support to this clause man great thinking
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01:07 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Cheers
hippesville
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01:47 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
nah chris i disagree. from my own perspective i think that taking a player at his/her word is enough on funky.

if a player commits to a clan and then has a change of heart then that is entirely down to them.
up-shot of this is that people will know not how reliable a player is, but how reliable they are to 'their word'.
i agree that at the point where a team are about to start the season and it happens, it throws things up in the air for that team captain, but in all seriousness it's still a game.
integrity will shine through on most players in my opinion.
keep it real,
keep er lit,
and don't get too into it.

its about the fun and there will always be down-sides but we just have to make the best of them.
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04:08 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Good idea Chris,

But i agree with Gareth on this one.
mr_pink_eyes
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04:13 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah can't see this being in force, like football, if a player wants to go but isn't allowed, you aint gonna get the best from them if they don't want to be there, so no point in keeping hold of them, if a player is going to be loyal, they will be loyal off their own back, you can't make a player loyal by enforcing a contract so to speaks on them.

viking4life, a player can only play for 1 clan per season, they can't play for another clan till the following season if they don't wanna play, so that rule is there already to stop players jumping ship mid-season, it's just during the transfer window when players can move that's the problem, once players lists are in for the season, the player is stuck with that particular clan for the season, if they decide they don't want to play for that clan, they can't play for another till the new season.
dgeneratio
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05:04 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
ive got to agree with hippes, nice idea but it wont happen, you cant force people to stay in a clan if they feel uncomfortable or uneasy in any way.
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05:35 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
I like the idea but it cant see how that it could work. You wouldnt want a player who isnt commited because they want to leave to play the deciding game in a match to decide the outcome. I know for sure that Div 1 games are hard enough when you are trying your hardest.

Reckon youll get dodgy under the radar deals and the like happening and as a member of the EU, we would no doubt be taken to the court of human rights for some new funkypool bosman ruling.
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06:25 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
if it was put in place you would get pleyers comitting to just 1 season at a time
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07:23 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
making players keep playing for clan that they dont want to be in is unfair to players that do want to play there.the problem is new clans who start up and come along and get players to play when season has started.and alot of players would not commit to more than 6 months yet a year lol
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07:33 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Interesting idea, but this is a family site and its for fun purposes.
Some players would be forced to play a season or two and then a problem occurs to him, it's not fun anymore.

The only way I would agree to this if I get a salary from each season paid in real life
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08:26 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
It's a good idea but say i player says he wants to join for 5 seasons and gets bored say mid season 2 and wants to go but can't whats to stop them just not playing or purposly losing so you drop them etc.

All you can go on really is there word and it's a 50/50 shot they will be loyal.
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09:00 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Thanks for your feedback, it's just the in between season it would really come in to effect, and i dont think, someone will ever say i will join for 5 seasons, it was more of the fact, if you say you join in the transfer window 1 team e.g the snipers, you cant say 5 mins later after everythings been sorted, actually im joining Crazy 8's

Thanks
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10:55 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
making players keep playing for clan that they dont want to be in is unfair to players that do want to play i think if players make a new name on here there should wait longer if there dont what to keep there old name that there fault if new players come on that ok but why should people in clans already make new names all the time i think a player that is all ready in a clan our was in a clan should wait longer to rejoin a clan again that will stop them changing there names all the time
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11:00 Tue 22 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
its a very good idea and would help clans alot but i dont think it could work
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