its not that simple houston.

look at all of the other ideas on the forum, are we just going to get them done.

and colins, we are not trying to treat u like a dummy, but what we are trying to say that the ranking system in place is...just right.

and in the end, it is up to the person to decide weather he wants to play or not. your never going to stop someone from leaving...remember the thread i created to stop people from leaving mid game??

well now that i do see the other side of the coin (which is heads...lol ) you cant force people into doing things. not just on funkypool, but in reality as well.

like i said, thats just the way it is

My point exactly

thats what im talking about.

a little off topic but we just cant do everything.

I was talking about spinner with all his "understand now" and stuff.

Clearly isn't just right if people are scared to people because of massive risk and no real gain.

well then they are punished accordingly by not being able to play as many games with there own little criteria that everyone must meet for them.

we do get your point and we hear you loud and clear and like i said, i agree with you in some ways but i cant see it changing...in my opinion.

case closed for me. we have argued over nothing for to long (im not posting on here again....unless its important)

Edited at 12:24 Sat 12/01/08 (GMT)

I wasn't being patronising, just trying to point out that the risk/points issue has already been addressed.

If a user is so far ahead that they will only win 0.3 points, they can comfortably be expected to win so there is no problem.

If they are so unsure of their abilities that they wont play in case they lose, then that is hardly a fault in the system, but a lack of sportmanship/understanding by the player.

Thats something we will never be able to fix

Both of you have missed my point exactly, I'm thinking about the lesser ranked people not getting to play the higher ranked.

It's not about risk of losing it's the fact that it's not worthwhile playing low ranked players, the ranking system should make it worthwhile to play everyone.

Now what we have is seperate groupings of players who only play each other, that is not an online pool community.

I'm still adamant this is why there are thousands of members but only a few hundred regular players.

Which would be perfectly fine - if game owner rank was listed in the game selection window...

People ARE able to choose who the want to play or not, regardless of the proposed mechanic, and it obviously needs to be that way.

There are many good reasons for people to be picky with who they play - stat resets, second+ accounts, etc may be a disaster on your own rank if you run into a 850 player playing a 675 account.

Not to mention the horribly unreasonable aspect of quite simply wanting a good quality game.

I'm not on about forcing people to play lower ranked folk, just that the rankings could be amended so as it doesn't deter high-ranked players from playing lower ranked players.

Is it fair if a 850 player can play a 650 player, win 8-1 and lose points overall?

i dont usually get involved with these, and i dont want to start an argument.

but if someone would want to play a certain rank then if they had the ability to do it then they can.

or if people didnt want to play a certain rank, they wanted to play whoever then they wouldnt have to enter certain ranks,

it would definetly stop these threads being made, and wouldnt the funkypool world be a happier place to be??

sorry if it doesnt make sense

colins, i feel that I need to say this dispite me saying that i wouldnt input into this forum again. janmb has said exactly what I was trying to say...but better.

colins, the ranking system as it is is perfectly justafyable for me. there is more risk invovled to play the lower rnak. that means that there will be better quality games.

and for the 7th or so time, it is the persons choice. if you want to play the lower rank, go for it. but as it is now, I dont see it changing...not for a long time.

case closed. please face it, your not convincing anyone. take this advice from personal experiance: dont try to win the losing battle if no one is on your side.

No-one seems to understand what I am saying at all!!

Do you think it is fair that if an 850 plays a 650, wins 8-1 (you could say the 850 shouldn't lose but say the 650 wins by fluke black off break) because the 850 only gets say 0.3 points per win and the 650 gets 5 points, so the 850 player only wins 2.4 and the 650 player wins 5?

This is bringing a massive divide between high ranked and low ranked players. People will look for similar ranked games obviously, I do. But I also play low ranked players now and again because I feel I should. They always moan about the high ranked players not playing them, this is because of this unfair ranking system. These people are on my side, just they don't post as much so voice is not heard.

You are a low ranked player, don't you get frustrated people coming in to your table and leaving because you are too low to play them?

Edited at 13:15 Sun 13/01/08 (GMT)

and your missing ours.

850's dont play 650's!

I'm suggesting that they would more if the rankings were fairer.

And thats exactly the attitude that needs to change.

Edited at 13:20 Sun 13/01/08 (GMT)

im not going to argue over piddley squat anymore.

colins, again; we value your opinion, but there are the dux of funkypool who have their own little league and the average folks.

95% of people are happy as it is. we have more suggestions for game rooms where only a similer rank can join rather then your idea.

i see where your coming from and I know that your standing by your idea and yes, its fustrating when no one agrees (i have been in that sport before).

im not arguing anymore over nothing on a thread that should have been capped long ago.

most are happy as it is an thats how it works; the majority rules

I concede it will never happen.

I just think this site would be a whole lot better if the lower ranked players weren't just shut out and having to play rubbish players all the time and not really getting the chance to play anyone they can learn from.

And so you know I'm a high-ranked player (generally about 850 give or take a bit) so my views are not self-helping (I don't think that that is a real word).

Why don't they play them were they not a 650 player once !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no...everyone starts at 675.

850's will beat 650's in 8 ball games 99 times out of 100 games (in theroy)

Exactly.

Thats why there is no reason not to play them