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dark_chocco
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00:55 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Playoffs are Playoffs - As far as I were aware 3 players selected team who wins 2 fixtures out of 3 progresses.

I wasn't aware that differed in the SL - nor were we even informed.

So it's now 2-4 lol in their favour, had we known this from the start rapid_pot might have won all 3. I just think it's farcical to announce the different rule when 2 /3 have been played.

C'mon _fresh_ win 3-0.


That would be slightly difficult if a runout occurs, like it actually did. Just saying

If I'd known that frame mattered I might have done a better job trying to put you off


Haha suppose that could work
zantetsukenz
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00:56 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Every captain should know the rules by now anyway if they've always been the same.


Agreed ... It's their Job .. If i was Rapid i'd be a little upset with this !

Rapid is a little upset with this. Rapid plays tennis and he reckons that if he wins 2 sets and his opponent wins 1 set then he wins the match, even if he wins both sets 7-6 and his opponent wins one 6-0.

Problem is the initial match was 2 wins for Uprising, 1 draw and 1 win for Phoenix and it was classed as a draw. Surely you don't change the format to a different league?
_gerardddd_
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00:58 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Capped until it has calmed down
_gerardddd_
_gerardddd_
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01:06 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Uncapped - back on topic
rapid_pot
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01:08 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Every captain should know the rules by now anyway if they've always been the same.


Agreed ... It's their Job .. If i was Rapid i'd be a little upset with this !

Rapid is a little upset with this. Rapid plays tennis and he reckons that if he wins 2 sets and his opponent wins 1 set then he wins the match, even if he wins both sets 7-6 and his opponent wins one 6-0.

Problem is the initial match was 2 wins for Uprising, 1 draw and 1 win for Phoenix and it was classed as a draw. Surely you don't change the format to a different league?

Oh I agree. I think uprising should have won that fixture. If I think of team events like the Mosconi cup in pool, the ryder cup in golf, the davis cup in tennis and the weber cup in bowling a win is just one point for your side, doesn't matter how big the win is. I think that's how it works anyway, been a while since I watched any mosconi cup!
i_am_noob
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01:10 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Sl is always frame count why would it change for playoff?
horse10000
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01:10 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Every captain should know the rules by now anyway if they've always been the same.


Agreed ... It's their Job .. If i was Rapid i'd be a little upset with this !

Rapid is a little upset with this. Rapid plays tennis and he reckons that if he wins 2 sets and his opponent wins 1 set then he wins the match, even if he wins both sets 7-6 and his opponent wins one 6-0.

Problem is the initial match was 2 wins for Uprising, 1 draw and 1 win for Phoenix and it was classed as a draw. Surely you don't change the format to a different league?

Oh I agree. I think uprising should have won that fixture. If I think of team events like the Mosconi cup in pool, the ryder cup in golf, the davis cup in tennis and the weber cup in bowling a win is just one point for your side, doesn't matter how big the win is. I think that's how it works anyway, been a while since I watched any mosconi cup!


Now you say uprising should have won adam even after your heroics to get your team a play off.................if only i knew it would have saved all this
dgeneratio
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01:12 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
surprised you didn't petition to change Snooker much Adam
_gerardddd_
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01:12 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Just get on with it, it is what it is
rapid_pot
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01:16 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Quotes removed as they were so long I couldn't actually type anything

I've got to be honest haha. And I never said anything on snooker James because there were only about 2 carom players in the league I didn't expect to beat 6-0 . On pool it's much easier for a weaker player to take a couple of racks off a good player than say in original snooker or carom so frame count introduces an element of luck. 1 point per game makes the depth in the squad more important as you can't rely on a couple of robots bringing in massive scores every match .
kris
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01:17 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
So let's get this straight. One team can win 67% of the matches but one big win means the other team win the playoff? That's been thought through well... ha.


yeah. doesnt seem right this to me either.
guess rules are rules tho
kris
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01:18 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Every captain should know the rules by now anyway if they've always been the same.


Agreed ... It's their Job .. If i was Rapid i'd be a little upset with this !

Rapid is a little upset with this. Rapid plays tennis and he reckons that if he wins 2 sets and his opponent wins 1 set then he wins the match, even if he wins both sets 7-6 and his opponent wins one 6-0.


brilliant example m8
dgeneratio
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01:24 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Only problem is as Zante and Keith said, entire SL has been frame count only and not like FBL where you get 2 for win and 1 for draw so i agree playoff should be a frame count as well.

If Zante is right and usually is under Adams scheme, Uprising Strawberries would be through to play DFE B Team rather than a Playoff.

Now i think about it, it makes more sense to have one or the other, SL points count, Playoff points count or SL frames count, Playoff frames count (Current). frames count then points count makes no sense
rapid_pot
rapid_pot
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01:28 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Only problem is as Zante and Keith said, entire SL has been frame count only and not like FBL where you get 2 for win and 1 for draw so i agree playoff should be a frame count as well.

If Zante is right and usually is under Adams scheme, Uprising Strawberries would be through to play DFE B Team rather than a Playoff.

Now i think about it, it makes more sense to have one or the other, SL points count, Playoff points count or SL frames count, Playoff frames count (Current). frames count then points count makes no sense

The only counter to that is that the fewer frames there are in play, the more weighting one player can have. Say fresh wins the other game 2-1. Uprising win 5-4, and dv8 has contributed over 50% of his team's points.
faust
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01:30 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
I DID post the playoff format on this very thread. Even shadows understood it!
horse10000
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01:30 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Only problem is as Zante and Keith said, entire SL has been frame count only and not like FBL where you get 2 for win and 1 for draw so i agree playoff should be a frame count as well.

If Zante is right and usually is under Adams scheme, Uprising Strawberries would be through to play DFE B Team rather than a Playoff.

Now i think about it, it makes more sense to have one or the other, SL points count, Playoff points count or SL frames count, Playoff frames count (Current). frames count then points count makes no sense

The only counter to that is that the fewer frames there are in play, the more weighting one player can have. Say fresh wins the other game 2-1. Uprising win 5-4, and dv8 has contributed over 50% of his team's points.


Which would be fair as you added 42% to your teams total points in the first place to get the play off. So one player can have a huge impact on the match and the play off.
_knightmare_
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01:33 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
3 v 3 players playing 3 frames each. 1 of 8us, one of 8uk and of 9us (In that order unless agreed otherwise).

A ridiculous way to determine the winner of an already ridiculous format!


Thanks for posting the format, saved me doing it

List of 3 players from each captain Asap please.


Yeah you did faust -- I can see clearly where it says FIRST to 5 POINTS.
rapid_pot
rapid_pot
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01:34 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Only problem is as Zante and Keith said, entire SL has been frame count only and not like FBL where you get 2 for win and 1 for draw so i agree playoff should be a frame count as well.

If Zante is right and usually is under Adams scheme, Uprising Strawberries would be through to play DFE B Team rather than a Playoff.

Now i think about it, it makes more sense to have one or the other, SL points count, Playoff points count or SL frames count, Playoff frames count (Current). frames count then points count makes no sense

The only counter to that is that the fewer frames there are in play, the more weighting one player can have. Say fresh wins the other game 2-1. Uprising win 5-4, and dv8 has contributed over 50% of his team's points.


Which would be fair as you added 42% to your teams total points in the first place to get the play off. So one player can have a huge impact on the match and the play off.

Exactly. I don't like that though as it takes away from the team aspect of the game . Obviously the rules are the rules but I think it's a shame when one good player can be so OP!
faust
faust
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01:45 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
3 v 3 players playing 3 frames each. 1 of 8us, one of 8uk and of 9us (In that order unless agreed otherwise).

A ridiculous way to determine the winner of an already ridiculous format!


Thanks for posting the format, saved me doing it

List of 3 players from each captain Asap please.


Yeah you did faust -- I can see clearly where it says FIRST to 5 POINTS.


Seemed obvious to me but I suppose we've played in one before against Pro's. Lets face it, all six frames that have been played so far, the players tried their best to win!
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01:51 Wed 4 May 16 (BST)  [Link]  
see u next season lads
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