When did I say stale?

All I provided was a solution to create more clans from the players we have as there is not enough active / reliable players to create another 2 or 3 clans of 16 anymore, so you can only work with what you have.

I have no problem with one clan winning everything, but if I had a choice I would prefer to play games where any clan is capable of an upset as opposed to a lot of predictable victories. This has far more excitement which may encourage others to try, which in my opinion was the super league format last season which had more upsets than the FCL has had in 26 seasons. The best clan still came out on top yet there was a few losses on the way which I believe added to the enjoyment for all the teams apart from possibly the big teams who knocked the short format due to the fact it took away the long formats which favour them so they prefer to class it as a joke or not worth playing etc.

Totally agree with that Keith

FCL format may well have same outcome this season, tho it may throw a few spanners in there looking at a couple of the other teams getting stronger.

Super League won last season, much more interesting!

Just as an example, look at the Premier League in England.
Results and certain team positions have made it worth watching!

The SL was the most enjoyable league this season as it was a proper competition between all sides. Uprising won everything because they had the best team and players - nothing new there so we're in for the same again all be it a few changed players, those who have left have simply been replaced.

A league where ALL teams have a chance of an upset or even better winning the title makes for an exciting prospect, might generate further interest in to clans and ultimately the site which we all are meant to be advocating.

Keith - You're the League Runner - go with your instincts and those who don't like it then I guess they can easily be replaced with those who do. I like having the opportunity to voice my opinion but at the end of the day - you're the Runner.

So clans were the reason why numbers on funky got reduced?

Ive said it on snooker aswell when they tried to change format that it wont bring new players by making the format shorter, and i will say it now again. IMO FCL and FBL shouldnt change, i mean whats wrong with their format? And why should we make the league interesting by making teams of 4? If thats the case then i say reduce teams to 2 players/team, that would be more interesting! Lol

All the leagues were competitive this season although the winner was Uprising in all. But the FCL was decided only on frame difference, in FBL uprising finished around 10 points ahead of Phoenix. And strangely the only format which was more Dominated by Uprising is the SL in which we put 3 teams in the semis.

So even If u shorten the formats the winner will still be the best team, but it would make it worthless to come online and play only 4 or 6 frames. I personally dont enjoy plAying only 10 minutes of pool.

FBL for me, is the most boring league. It's a pain to play and seriously don't even care about most of the games. I'm not quite sure why I hate the FBL... It's just too predictable. More predictable than the FCL, i would argue.
Leave the FCL and Super League as they are and revamp the FBL.

Maybe reduce players in a clan to 14 or something .. But I don't know if that will go down well.

I reckon FBL is great for those that have a certain preference

It would be nice to see a league with a similar format to the cup... The cups format is pretty great.

The only competition where anyone has a real chance of an upset is the SL. Dont change that!

That's coz it's the Cup tho!

All im saying is, the FCL and SL are perfect the way they are.

The only league im bored of, or would rather just not bother with, is the FBL. Can we not just revamp that league and then continue.

No SL will deffo not be changed, the point was raised regarding more teams or fewer players to create them. If you read my post above i suggested changing FBL and Cup to a similar shorter format to create more competitions where upsets are achieved and to leave FCL as the long predictable format that some prefer.

Change the FBL but leave the cup the same. Love the cup format.

Agree about cup. The format is brilliant.

So you would like the FBL to change to a smaller team so more chance of upsets but leave the cup, I think that would work well and add something to the leagues.

Fcl = 8 players - 1 team
Gsc = 8 players - 1 team
Fbl = 4 players - 2 or 3 teams
SL = 4 players - 2 or 3 teams

I'd like to see something a little different from the FBL too.. Like a 2 league system or something. Maybe where everyone plays eachother once in one their league and then the top so many join to make a first division and the bottom so many from each league make a second division. Points reset and then everyone plays everyone in their new leagues once more to see who tops division 1 and division 2.

Not only does this idea give a chance for an upset but also means that lesser teams and 'b' or 'c' sides have a division 2 title to play for too.

The initial 2 leagues could be drawn randomly. And then the top (say half) go through to division one from each league and bottom half go to division 2 bracket.

I think thats great. The FBL format will remain though eg 8 of each and 2 games of straight for each set of 4 players?

That would be easy to do but may make the format too long. You could have a winner of league for when everyone plays, then a winner for each division. I am open to any other suggestions or thoughts.

What they do over here in the Stanley Cup (hockey) is play all the season and the top 8 play in a knockout.

I was happy to leave format as it was but again am open to any other suggestions

I say it because it would feel a lot longer having to play every a and b and possible c side in the league to see how tops it. But plain considering that's what the FCL already does. Any other way of doing it without ripping off the super league group and knockout structure?