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_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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18:17 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I've asked many players and some refuse I respect their decisions and move on to another - hardly the end of the world is it. Careful Stu and watch your language as this is a discussion thread not an opportunity for you to voice personal opinions.

Also I know it's a very touchy subject the fact some are calling for teams to be reduced, shame you've lost some top quality...Heaven forbid you lose anymore... lol.

Funkypool ....oh noo...don't make Stuey mad!

faust
faust
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18:18 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
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I think you'll find profanity is used by the intellectual elite just as often as it is used by the likes of you.

Edited by forum moderator ab_rfc, at 18:52 Mon 21/12/15 (GMT)
faust
faust
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18:20 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I've asked many players and some refuse I respect their decisions and move on to another - hardly the end of the world is it. Careful Stu and watch your language as this is a discussion thread not an opportunity for you to voice personal opinions.

Also I know it's a very touchy subject the fact some are calling for teams to be reduced, shame you've lost some top quality...Heaven forbid you lose anymore... lol.

Funkypool ....oh noo...don't make Stuey mad!



Yes, it's certainly painful having 16 players. I don't know how I'll cope! lol
apples_back
apples_back
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18:39 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seriously? You're all grown adults in the middle of the day bickering on a pool website. Take a look at yourselves :/

And you wonder why the site is stale? You push people out because they have no interest in getting involved in your lots constant jibes and arguments over things that actually have 0% of an effect on your lives on a grander scale.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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18:46 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not me pal but Snooker League will be gone after this set and except for defaults i haven't seen a major argument since Black Ballers was around and that was several years ago. Pool gets arguments almost daily but the League is stable.

I'm curious to know why
faust
faust
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18:49 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seriously? You're all grown adults in the middle of the day bickering on a pool website. Take a look at yourselves :/

And you wonder why the site is stale? You push people out because they have no interest in getting involved in your lots constant jibes and arguments over things that actually have 0% of an effect on your lives on a grander scale.


I wish that's why it was stale Sam. I played for six years before I even knew there was a forum! I'm still gutted I missed out on all the historic huge arguments!
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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19:03 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seriously? You're all grown adults in the middle of the day bickering on a pool website. Take a look at yourselves :/

And you wonder why the site is stale? You push people out because they have no interest in getting involved in your lots constant jibes and arguments over things that actually have 0% of an effect on your lives on a grander scale.


I'm not arguing Sam - I was just voicing my opinion, didn't specifically name a team neither - The personal comments/remarks were sent after when someone cannot seem to comprehend the difference between a discussion thread and personal comments.

I was agreeing with your initial idea - I think it's about time we had more teams and if that's created from reducing the team numbers permitted then so be it.

I'm sick and tired of hearing 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' garbage. No one said it was 'broken' just with a few minor tweaks the leagues and enjoyment factor for ALL might just function that little better.

Good post Sam.
apples_back
apples_back
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19:09 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seriously lads it's just embarrassing to look across the website and everywhere there are little snipes between what are supposedly two of the better captains on the site. If you both don't like each other that's fine, you get over it, like men, and be civil.

Ash the idea itself has been swamped beneath a full page of your two's crap, and i'm not just isolating you here Ash, from what i've seen recently, Stu you've been initiating the deluge.

There are enough players left on this site to have an enjoyable, competitive league. However, and this is coming from me, ego's need to be left at the door and your personal issues with each other kept at bay. I know you both well enough to know you're capable of that.

Who is actually running this league at the moment? Or all of the leagues?
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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19:18 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'm sick and tired of hearing 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' garbage. No one said it was 'broken' just with a few minor tweaks the leagues and enjoyment factor for ALL might just function that little better.


Well, It isn't broke, take Java, they try and fix Java 8 Update 31, problems and bugs, It wasn't broken but they tried to fix it and made it worse.

Snooker i tried to fix and made it worse, I see a pattern, why fix something that works?
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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19:23 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
It was broken James that's why they (JAVA) have constant updates. They might not have been broken when dealing with Funkypool and Funkysnooker mate but the fact people out there exploited and navigated their way through insecurities which they located they had to act. Hence the new adopted security parameters.

So yeah it was broke and will continue to remain so, the Critical patches are usually the most useful.

Java will forever be updated and the previous versions will expire and become obsolete....unfortunately. That's why we need Nick ASAP or the game re-written in HTML5 or C++, before it becomes inaccessible IMO.
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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19:29 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seriously lads it's just embarrassing to look across the website and everywhere there are little snipes between what are supposedly two of the better captains on the site. If you both don't like each other that's fine, you get over it, like men, and be civil.

Ash the idea itself has been swamped beneath a full page of your two's crap, and i'm not just isolating you here Ash, from what i've seen recently, Stu you've been initiating the deluge.

There are enough players left on this site to have an enjoyable, competitive league. However, and this is coming from me, ego's need to be left at the door and your personal issues with each other kept at bay. I know you both well enough to know you're capable of that.

Who is actually running this league at the moment? Or all of the leagues?


Fair enough. Sorry.
ab_rfc
ab_rfc
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20:53 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seriously lads it's just embarrassing to look across the website and everywhere there are little snipes between what are supposedly two of the better captains on the site. If you both don't like each other that's fine, you get over it, like men, and be civil.

Ash the idea itself has been swamped beneath a full page of your two's crap, and i'm not just isolating you here Ash, from what i've seen recently, Stu you've been initiating the deluge.

There are enough players left on this site to have an enjoyable, competitive league. However, and this is coming from me, ego's need to be left at the door and your personal issues with each other kept at bay. I know you both well enough to know you're capable of that.

Who is actually running this league at the moment? Or all of the leagues?

Well said
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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21:00 Mon 21 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
It was broken James that's why they (JAVA) have constant updates. They might not have been broken when dealing with Funkypool and Funkysnooker mate but the fact people out there exploited and navigated their way through insecurities which they located they had to act. Hence the new adopted security parameters.

So yeah it was broke and will continue to remain so, the Critical patches are usually the most useful.

Java will forever be updated and the previous versions will expire and become obsolete....unfortunately. That's why we need Nick ASAP or the game re-written in HTML5 or C++, before it becomes inaccessible IMO.


Yeah, I know Budweiser has recently texted nick so hoping its a good sign, Its worrying when someone close to a site disappears for months. On Angels my net was down for two weeks and people were concerned about me so i can't imagine the worry the staff has over nick and members included. First thing is hope nick is safe and then comes back to site even if its part time to try and sort out these issues.

I do hope he is okay.
horse10000
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01:26 Tue 22 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
What do people think to dropping the maximum amount of players in one team? More teams, more competitive, even go back to two divisions potentially?! We have to do something to stop this going even more stale, do something revolutionary?


We sort of had this with the super league this season, smaller numbers more teams and very competitive.

I can understand why people don't want change but with numbers dwindling at some point we will have to look at change before clans die altogether like they have on snooker.

What about changing FBL and even GSC cup next season to teams of 4 and 2 teams per clan and leave FCL as only event that has 8 players and long format.

FBL could be US8, US9, UK8 and Straight 1 player in each so players can play their favourite type.

Then GSC cup could be the same 4 game types but all players play 1 frame of each type, cup is then a very short format where any team could win it.

Clan numbers don't need to change for any of the above but it doubles the number of teams in FBL and Cup.
buckjam
buckjam
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01:35 Tue 22 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I like it very much. Just do it Keith. Dont encourage a discussion as it will just be a row. As we have said before it can always change back.And before anyone pipes up its a discussion thread, its not.............its an oppotunity for everyone to disagree and row on and on and make us all sick so dont give me that twaddle
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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01:43 Tue 22 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I like it very much. Just do it Keith. Dont encourage a discussion as it will just be a row. As we have said before it can always change back.And before anyone pipes up its a discussion thread, its not.............its an oppotunity for everyone to disagree and row on and on and make us all sick so dont give me that twaddle


lol yeah true, least on Snooks we can discuss, i mean i didn't even make rules of our short format. I do like it Keith, partly worried as i reduced it and didn't change the interest rate on Snooks, but i feel Pool is strong enough to survive a reduced league.

For me the problem was always too many competitions and killer it can be a pain to organise matches.
_knightmare_
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01:52 Tue 22 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
1 person per type - hardly seems worth entering tbh - 2 should remain the minimum just maybe Captains are restricted to playing the same players consecutively - give others on the team a chance.

I like the way the FBL is now and that's already been changed before so I'd suggest leaving that one well alone. FCL is fine also but reduce the amount per team and the fixtures will be reduced accordingly too.

SL worked very well this season, the Cup was a okay - apart from the Playoff seemed silly to only play 3 players and best of 5 in each - pointless.

Plate - Not sure why my team wasn't allowed to enter this as we lost to Uprising on a Playoff in the 1st round - surely we should have been eligible for the alternative cup? Same thing with that playoff too.

* Reduce teams to 12-14 players then they'll be less players feeling left out or give us some set stringent guidelines/rules to adhere too. (ie, no players played consecutively, wildcard picks etc)
faust
faust
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02:06 Tue 22 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
What do people think to dropping the maximum amount of players in one team? More teams, more competitive, even go back to two divisions potentially?! We have to do something to stop this going even more stale, do something revolutionary?


We sort of had this with the super league this season, smaller numbers more teams and very competitive.

I can understand why people don't want change but with numbers dwindling at some point we will have to look at change before clans die altogether like they have on snooker.

What about changing FBL and even GSC cup next season to teams of 4 and 2 teams per clan and leave FCL as only event that has 8 players and long format.

FBL could be US8, US9, UK8 and Straight 1 player in each so players can play their favourite type.

Then GSC cup could be the same 4 game types but all players play 1 frame of each type, cup is then a very short format where any team could win it.

Clan numbers don't need to change for any of the above but it doubles the number of teams in FBL and Cup.


What exactly was stale about this season Keith??? I don't think it's the format of the competitions that all seemed to work well. Is it because we won everything rather than Pro's, or was it just as stale then? And can you see any of those changes bringing more players into clan pool?
faust
faust
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02:06 Tue 22 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I like it very much. Just do it Keith. Dont encourage a discussion as it will just be a row. As we have said before it can always change back.And before anyone pipes up its a discussion thread, its not.............its an oppotunity for everyone to disagree and row on and on and make us all sick so dont give me that twaddle


It's ok saying that, but I already have players like Sam that don't want to play any short format. He asked me this season not to select him in any more SL games, and I have at least 2 more that don't want to play in any short format games. Added to this, I didn't particularly enjoy the SL this season, nor did I like the playoff system in the GSC that seemed far too short and random to determine a winner.

It may sound like a "taking my bat and ball home" moment, but for the amount of time you have to invest to run a clan - I don't think I would continue to do so in that proposed format. Not in any kind of protest, it just simply wouldn't be enjoyable enough for me to find the motivation. I'm sure Eri or Zante would continue though, and I'd wish you all the best and hope your changes bring more numbers to the game. Would probably be a blessing in disguise for me anyway with a kid, a new(ish) gf and a new band I should probably be prioritising more! lol
hippesville
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02:47 Tue 22 Dec 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
It really is sad to see the same old crap over and over again from unsurprisingly the same culprits

Totally agree with Sam's comments, absolutely no need.

Aside from Clans I think more folk should have a positive comment in the Members Opinions Thread in General Chat Forum.

As for Clans I don't think anything needs changed.
Team numbers assure there are subs to get games played, and Captains have responsibility for entering 1, 2 or 3 teams for certain Leagues.

I know I'm not a part of it any more, I'd love to be, just not do-able.

Just stop the bickering and enjoy yer pool without the handbags ffs

Here endeth the lesson, Hippes of Gazereth x
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