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18:12 Fri 3 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Sunday 9pm? Thought so. Will see if i can be on to organise.
The one than im in.. with pros and FK is on the default time I believe on Sunday
Sunday 9pm? Thought so. Will see if i can be on to organise.
16:13 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Okay folks had a quick chat with zante, there wont be on extension, defualt info needs to be sent to either me or zante asap, cheers.
16:37 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Why not? It doesn't affect current league standings, plus also adds a little more emphasis on TEAM work.
Some teams like mine are severely depleted so the option to have an extension could have shown a more considerate/compassionate side from the make shift League Runners. We could have easily completed our fixtures with the use of dark_chocco and x_connor but that were rejected.
Glad the seasons over tbh, it's been good in places and a shambles in others. I sincerely hope that next season will be all good and rules are not only just words on a screen but remain resolute aand firm throughout. I hope that ALL RULES will APPLY to everyone and not just if and when deem fit. (notably transfers, start with a team, finish with a team IMO unless relationship between player & Captain becomes untenable) Then and only then should a removal from a team be made and replacement be sought.
horse10000 you've done a good job and thanks for taking over the runnership, couldn't have been easy especially when dealing with Captains and the likes of me. So first season were good, would like you to remain and I hope the 2nd season be even better.
Some teams like mine are severely depleted so the option to have an extension could have shown a more considerate/compassionate side from the make shift League Runners. We could have easily completed our fixtures with the use of dark_chocco and x_connor but that were rejected.
Glad the seasons over tbh, it's been good in places and a shambles in others. I sincerely hope that next season will be all good and rules are not only just words on a screen but remain resolute aand firm throughout. I hope that ALL RULES will APPLY to everyone and not just if and when deem fit. (notably transfers, start with a team, finish with a team IMO unless relationship between player & Captain becomes untenable) Then and only then should a removal from a team be made and replacement be sought.
horse10000 you've done a good job and thanks for taking over the runnership, couldn't have been easy especially when dealing with Captains and the likes of me. So first season were good, would like you to remain and I hope the 2nd season be even better.
17:12 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
After 4 weeks, there's been plenty of time to get games done and you've had the players to complete the fixture in that time. Having limited players at the end of the fixture isn't really valid justification for 48 more hours of struggling with minimal players for a game that makes no impact when there are FBL games outstanding which do impact standings. Sacrificing focus on those games for a game which isn't important is illogical.
Plus we need to be fair to all teams, allowing the extension would be unfair to revs. The division two games will go to default, which decides placing depending on how they go.
Can't really say rules should be stuck to more but broken now for your own team in the same post either. They were denied for teams who were in far more need so in the interest of fairness denying you and revs was the right choice.
Plus we need to be fair to all teams, allowing the extension would be unfair to revs. The division two games will go to default, which decides placing depending on how they go.
Can't really say rules should be stuck to more but broken now for your own team in the same post either. They were denied for teams who were in far more need so in the interest of fairness denying you and revs was the right choice.
17:17 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
When the season is over, can we have a list of all the clans and the amount of defaulted games that they have been deemed guilty of, and the team(s) with the least amount getting some recognition please?
17:23 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
There he goes again...............asks for peace and tranquility, will try not to be like this or do that anymore. Theres a few who back him up, dont bully him them say, give him the benefit of the doubt they say.
Then we get "could have shown a more considerate/compassionate side from the make shift League Runners."
They have grafted all season doing all the leg work and trying to keep it all running smoothly and you having a pop cause you couldnt get YOUR games done in 4 weeks.
Plus, i shouldnt go using words like compassionate and considerate until you fathom what they mean during the whole season.
What a guy!
Then we get "could have shown a more considerate/compassionate side from the make shift League Runners."
They have grafted all season doing all the leg work and trying to keep it all running smoothly and you having a pop cause you couldnt get YOUR games done in 4 weeks.
Plus, i shouldnt go using words like compassionate and considerate until you fathom what they mean during the whole season.
What a guy!
17:30 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
I meant no offence maybe should have used 'Stand Ins?' as far as I'm aware horse10000 is the only League Runner.
I do know what they mean otherwise I wouldn't use them.
I do know what they mean otherwise I wouldn't use them.
18:37 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Deadlines are their for a reason, each team has had four weeks to play, not one but four, If teams can't get them done in that time then somethings wrong with the team or opponents.
Yes they was rejected but Revolutions was rejected as well as Unbeatables. Keith only allowed in extreme circumstances and both teams had players who could complete the game.
Yes they was rejected but Revolutions was rejected as well as Unbeatables. Keith only allowed in extreme circumstances and both teams had players who could complete the game.
19:00 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Some teams were allowed to play new players from a folded team, we had players available unfortunately real life events occurred and we got stuck.
Requested a little assistance and got rejected, now you preach to me about deadlines. I've Captained for a few seasons thank you, I'm fully aware why they are there.
The extension were requested with it being the end of the fixture and season, not having any affect on final League positions so was to eliminate any further potential defaults.
That was all it was requested for. Fully aware had 4 weeks and fully aware had ALL original players been available throughout then they would have been played from ALL teams involved. What we could never anticipate was what the real life events and the impact they would cause to some teams availability.
Shame extension rejected tbh. (was just the timing, any other time would fully accept the rejection)
Requested a little assistance and got rejected, now you preach to me about deadlines. I've Captained for a few seasons thank you, I'm fully aware why they are there.
The extension were requested with it being the end of the fixture and season, not having any affect on final League positions so was to eliminate any further potential defaults.
That was all it was requested for. Fully aware had 4 weeks and fully aware had ALL original players been available throughout then they would have been played from ALL teams involved. What we could never anticipate was what the real life events and the impact they would cause to some teams availability.
Shame extension rejected tbh. (was just the timing, any other time would fully accept the rejection)
19:03 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
4 Weeks is more than enough for any fixtures to be honest mate.
If a team cant complete fixtures within 4 weeks then they seriously need to look at reliability and activity of their members.
If a team cant complete fixtures within 4 weeks then they seriously need to look at reliability and activity of their members.
19:57 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Initially they weren't allowed. However, every single clan from the division (and i'm sure the Div 2 clans were fine with it if it wasn't already stated), actively agreed that it was in the best interest to allow this since they were joining from a clan kicked out of the league and it wasn't fair to them to be excluded because of this as they were registered to a clan that could no longer play. Also, UB would've had 6 active players able to play for the entire set.
You had more than 10 players active for the entire set, and at least 10 for the entire set. Not everyone would've agreed to it and you did have enough players to get it done over the whole set, just not at the final weekend.
The extension has no benefits as you say, but has drawbacks for the potential effect it would have on the FBL. Pros outweighed by the cons.
Though we could discuss this for the next 2 weeks like this with no purpose. Request was made and a decision come to, now time to do defaults where needed and conclude the season.
Some teams were allowed to play new players from a folded team, we had players available unfortunately real life events occurred and we got stuck.
Requested a little assistance and got rejected, now you preach to me about deadlines. I've Captained for a few seasons thank you, I'm fully aware why they are there.
The extension were requested with it being the end of the fixture and season, not having any affect on final League positions so was to eliminate any further potential defaults.
That was all it was requested for. Fully aware had 4 weeks and fully aware had ALL original players been available throughout then they would have been played from ALL teams involved. What we could never anticipate was what the real life events and the impact they would cause to some teams availability.
Shame extension rejected tbh. (was just the timing, any other time would fully accept the rejection)
Requested a little assistance and got rejected, now you preach to me about deadlines. I've Captained for a few seasons thank you, I'm fully aware why they are there.
The extension were requested with it being the end of the fixture and season, not having any affect on final League positions so was to eliminate any further potential defaults.
That was all it was requested for. Fully aware had 4 weeks and fully aware had ALL original players been available throughout then they would have been played from ALL teams involved. What we could never anticipate was what the real life events and the impact they would cause to some teams availability.
Shame extension rejected tbh. (was just the timing, any other time would fully accept the rejection)
Initially they weren't allowed. However, every single clan from the division (and i'm sure the Div 2 clans were fine with it if it wasn't already stated), actively agreed that it was in the best interest to allow this since they were joining from a clan kicked out of the league and it wasn't fair to them to be excluded because of this as they were registered to a clan that could no longer play. Also, UB would've had 6 active players able to play for the entire set.
You had more than 10 players active for the entire set, and at least 10 for the entire set. Not everyone would've agreed to it and you did have enough players to get it done over the whole set, just not at the final weekend.
The extension has no benefits as you say, but has drawbacks for the potential effect it would have on the FBL. Pros outweighed by the cons.
Though we could discuss this for the next 2 weeks like this with no purpose. Request was made and a decision come to, now time to do defaults where needed and conclude the season.
23:57 Mon 6 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
I will say it again, Many Congratulations to Keith and his helpers.
Unfortunately they had as much, if not more childish behaviour to deal with this season. I for one am grateful for their efforts. Not saying I agree with all decisions, but that is neither here nor there.
THEIR TIME
THEIR COMMITMENT
THEIR HAIR BEING PULLED OUT
The most disappointing thing for me is it's the same people stirring it on the threads. People argue and slabber goad each other and then at the slightest sign of a row others jump on the bandwagon. It brings a bad smell to The Clan Community which should be sticking together and trying to PROMOTE Funkypool.
For those who would like to Pot, Kettle, Black me, or, People in Glass Houses me, then feel free......just shows that attitudes need to change.
I enjoyed this season with a truly great team, led by 2 fantastic Captains
I wish for the same next season......and the same for you all
Edited at 23:10 Mon 06/07/15 (BST)
Edited at 23:10 Mon 06/07/15 (BST)
Unfortunately they had as much, if not more childish behaviour to deal with this season. I for one am grateful for their efforts. Not saying I agree with all decisions, but that is neither here nor there.
THEIR TIME
THEIR COMMITMENT
THEIR HAIR BEING PULLED OUT
if they have any
The most disappointing thing for me is it's the same people stirring it on the threads. People argue and slabber goad each other and then at the slightest sign of a row others jump on the bandwagon. It brings a bad smell to The Clan Community which should be sticking together and trying to PROMOTE Funkypool.
For those who would like to Pot, Kettle, Black me, or, People in Glass Houses me, then feel free......just shows that attitudes need to change.
I enjoyed this season with a truly great team, led by 2 fantastic Captains
I wish for the same next season......and the same for you all
Edited at 23:10 Mon 06/07/15 (BST)
Edited at 23:10 Mon 06/07/15 (BST)
02:53 Tue 7 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
From what I can see, this is each clans numbers for next season. The season hasn't even finished yet, and recruitment has hardly begun - this hardly looks like a league struggling for numbers and unable to compete in an 8 v 8 fixture format!!! I'd bet a new team turns up too!
Uprising (16) - Had to remove 2 players
Unbeatables (16)
Pocket Dynamos (16)
Phoenix Nights (13) with more to come
Revolution (13) ?
Professionals (12) with more to come
FPD's (9) with more to come
Uprising (16) - Had to remove 2 players
Unbeatables (16)
Pocket Dynamos (16)
Phoenix Nights (13) with more to come
Revolution (13) ?
Professionals (12) with more to come
FPD's (9) with more to come
03:11 Tue 7 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
well I have got to say a big thank you to Sarah, Keith and Zac
great effort to keep forums updated and the leagues running smoothly
but it has to be a mega one for you Sarah, some may say im biased, but hardly as you are the one who does the bulk of the work seen and unseen, its a shame all the seasons you've been behind the scenes working with most runners and all the work you do, seems to go unrecognised
I for one will say Well Done and Please keep it up
being a runner isn't just a label or a title its earned
its for work done & you've definitely earned that title
respect to you
Keith you were asked to stay on this season after saving Clan Pool, you've had a great first season, a few glitches
but hey who cares, please continue
and make the changes you deem fit, to bring the fun back to clan pool
you've done well Keith keep up the good work
but maybe draft in some people to offset the work load
again a big well done to all
great effort to keep forums updated and the leagues running smoothly
but it has to be a mega one for you Sarah, some may say im biased, but hardly as you are the one who does the bulk of the work seen and unseen, its a shame all the seasons you've been behind the scenes working with most runners and all the work you do, seems to go unrecognised
I for one will say Well Done and Please keep it up
being a runner isn't just a label or a title its earned
its for work done & you've definitely earned that title
respect to you
Keith you were asked to stay on this season after saving Clan Pool, you've had a great first season, a few glitches
but hey who cares, please continue
and make the changes you deem fit, to bring the fun back to clan pool
you've done well Keith keep up the good work
but maybe draft in some people to offset the work load
again a big well done to all
20:12 Tue 7 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Thanks for the nice comments to us staff, we do graft and put time in. Putting in the results can be a long chore in its self, and us "make shift runners" are trying our best and giving up our time.
For next season we need solid rules about players leaving clans ect.
we also need the same people who cause crap to stop.
For next season we need solid rules about players leaving clans ect.
we also need the same people who cause crap to stop.
20:19 Tue 7 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Totally agree, we also need to all be on the same page. Not every disagreement is an argument nor needs to be. Not every disagreement is an invitation for everyone to post their own opinions. Not every disagreement warrants the crap which usually accompanys it.
IF Captains could refrain from posting or broadcasting miniscule/minor disputes then they have no need to escalate. If Captains or Players have any grievances, can they not message their Captains privately? Some I'm afraid post not only to provoke a retaliation but a reaction amongst friends. (Immature)
Keep disputes via offline and vicer versa.
IF Captains could refrain from posting or broadcasting miniscule/minor disputes then they have no need to escalate. If Captains or Players have any grievances, can they not message their Captains privately? Some I'm afraid post not only to provoke a retaliation but a reaction amongst friends. (Immature)
Keep disputes via offline and vicer versa.
21:03 Tue 7 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Is 20 point win bonus too much?
Also shouldnt there be a no default bonus? Where if the team who has a default, but its shown to be not thee fault they should also get points.
Shoukdnt clans be awarded for no defaults?
i believe pds and bs are the only team to have none? Possibly have a bonus of 25? Not this season obviously lol.
Also shouldnt there be a no default bonus? Where if the team who has a default, but its shown to be not thee fault they should also get points.
Shoukdnt clans be awarded for no defaults?
i believe pds and bs are the only team to have none? Possibly have a bonus of 25? Not this season obviously lol.
21:19 Tue 7 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Personally I feel there shouldn't be a win bonus, or, at the very least, it should be reduced to 10points for a win.
Bonus of completion of games should only be awarded to those who completed, only in special circumstance where the default has gone 12+ in favour of one team, should the other team receive this completion bonus.
Completion bonus should be 10 points.
Too much of a completion and win bonus takes away from the fact that all league points are important..
A team that wins all their games 61-59 would win the league against a team whom won most of their games by a more commanding lead. The aim of a league format is to find the team that wins the most frames throughout the season, not the most games - a trait that would allow for tournament format victory.
Is 20 point win bonus too much?
Also shouldnt there be a no default bonus? Where if the team who has a default, but its shown to be not thee fault they should also get points.
Shoukdnt clans be awarded for no defaults?
i believe pds and bs are the only team to have none? Possibly have a bonus of 25? Not this season obviously lol.
Also shouldnt there be a no default bonus? Where if the team who has a default, but its shown to be not thee fault they should also get points.
Shoukdnt clans be awarded for no defaults?
i believe pds and bs are the only team to have none? Possibly have a bonus of 25? Not this season obviously lol.
Personally I feel there shouldn't be a win bonus, or, at the very least, it should be reduced to 10points for a win.
Bonus of completion of games should only be awarded to those who completed, only in special circumstance where the default has gone 12+ in favour of one team, should the other team receive this completion bonus.
Completion bonus should be 10 points.
Too much of a completion and win bonus takes away from the fact that all league points are important..
A team that wins all their games 61-59 would win the league against a team whom won most of their games by a more commanding lead. The aim of a league format is to find the team that wins the most frames throughout the season, not the most games - a trait that would allow for tournament format victory.
21:27 Tue 7 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
I feel a post from beenjammin coming along...
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