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the__priest
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11:05 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Liverpool without Suarez wow, you wont miss him and was planned for
They haven't replaced him as yet or his goals
How can you replace Suarez and his quality
Barca paid £70 million for the goals and quality
So who have Liverpool signed Ricky Lambert

Sorry, please don't say Liverpool's purchase is like for like
its a cart horse for one of the greatest players seen on these shores

I put Suarez up with Ronaldo and Cantana
Sorry you cant replace Suarez for 20 bob

his quality is irreplaceable in the Liverpool team
you wont miss him and people know nothing about football
Really take the blinkers off the cart horse
cke1982
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14:19 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
United are nothing special, they are just as vulnerable to not signing their targets as anyone else who wants CL players but weren't ever likely to achieve it last season (qualification). There are plenty of world class managers about, Van Gaal is being hyped up for overachieving in the World Cup and United desperately hoping for the next Fergie like Moyes was billed to be. When United fail to break in the top four everyone will become more realistic (not saying he isn't a good manager, there's just far too much work to be done to get united in the top 4).

Liverpool showed top 4 quality in the second half of the season before last and then all through last season. Under Brendan Rodgers they have someone who could take them where they want and is proven with them (and is the sort of manager Moyes was supposed to be).


believe it once lfc get some silverware in the cabinet in trouble if we done replace suarez gls and not done it yet and still need a few positions but ill see what we do this season then predicting cause i got it wrong last season unfortunatley i got it right that chelsea and palace where the games that we needed to win to get the title
cke1982
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14:22 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Quite convenient now he's gone to say all this 'we planned for him to move' nonsense. Most of the signings are not to just feel the MASSIVE void which Suarez has left, I grant you that but that VOID is still there and the players bought in are not exactly tip top quality as Liverpool fans under their general hypnosis like to imagine. Markovic 2 goals last season, BEBE acquired more and he's useless, so 20/25m for garbage. Lallana yeah quality and Captain at Southampton, but there he had the club and team built around him and his positional awareness, not going to get the same at Gerrard's Liverpool. Lambert top quality striker, climbed all the way through the ranks, all other strikers being bought as well, must do wonders for his confidence. Javier Manquillo Gaitan (WHO?) Struggling to think of some of others but cant remember as not much KOP.

Tottenham tried the same logic to bring in many players and not just to cover 1 VOID (BALE) and they failed miserably with Lamela, Eriksen, Capoue, Soldado, Chariches & Chadli , hence the comparison and the KOP will no doubt be a FLOP

one of our darts lads said suarez should of stayed dont know why we got rid of him i nearly laughed thought are u serious

think spurs players needed to gell all top quality players and think if given a chance theyll repay the bale oney this year
cke1982
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14:25 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
lambert a scouser what we need players that give a stuff about the liverbird there wearing and not the money there on with right service lambert will be a success but we need to replace suarez gls and havent at the moment and not replaced a lot of positions that we need players hope we dont run out of time like last window deffo need a cb another top striker at least and a few more squad players
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14:26 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
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Amen Craig is all I can say.

Papers today: Brief

Cuadrado move imminent.
Hernandez to Juventus speeding up the inevitable Vidal
Hummels final bid fight with Arsenal, If not then will sign Blind
Van Gaal to challenge board for top World Class target, notably di Maria.

So yes never believe everything you read in the papers but when seems more like permanent ink then there must be some actual substance.
fuunky
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14:57 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Liverpool without Suarez wow, you wont miss him and was planned for
They haven't replaced him as yet or his goals
How can you replace Suarez and his quality
Barca paid £70 million for the goals and quality
So who have Liverpool signed Ricky Lambert

Sorry, please don't say Liverpool's purchase is like for like
its a cart horse for one of the greatest players seen on these shores

I put Suarez up with Ronaldo and Cantana
Sorry you cant replace Suarez for 20 bob

his quality is irreplaceable in the Liverpool team
you wont miss him and people know nothing about football
Really take the blinkers off the cart horse


100% agree, not including Ronaldo or messi he's easily the best striker in the world imo, even another 30million on a striker still wouldn't replace him. It's going be a real struggle for Liverpool make the top 4 this season I think.

Where do you get all your info from Ash? I don't believe anything till It's confirmed on sky sports, cavani has already said he wants to stay at PSG so I can't see that one happening.
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15:07 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Liverpool without Suarez wow, you wont miss him and was planned for
They haven't replaced him as yet or his goals
How can you replace Suarez and his quality
Barca paid £70 million for the goals and quality
So who have Liverpool signed Ricky Lambert

Sorry, please don't say Liverpool's purchase is like for like
its a cart horse for one of the greatest players seen on these shores

I put Suarez up with Ronaldo and Cantana
Sorry you cant replace Suarez for 20 bob

his quality is irreplaceable in the Liverpool team
you wont miss him and people know nothing about football
Really take the blinkers off the cart horse


100% agree, not including Ronaldo or messi he's easily the best striker in the world imo, even another 30million on a striker still wouldn't replace him. It's going be a real struggle for Liverpool make the top 4 this season I think.

Where do you get all your info from Ash? I don't believe anything till It's confirmed on sky sports, cavani has already said he wants to stay at PSG so I can't see that one happening.


Various websites, not all newspapers, Cavani has rejected Liverpool (you are right there)so has Falcao (he only wants RM move) they are trying sign Lavezzi now for 18m.
fuunky
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15:18 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
There's always that many rumours ya never know what believe, khedira looked almost a cert to be joining Arsenal bookies had it 1/7 but Wenger says he's not looking for a midfielder and doesn't know where It's come from lol
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15:40 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
There's always that many rumours ya never know what believe, khedira looked almost a cert to be joining Arsenal bookies had it 1/7 but Wenger says he's not looking for a midfielder and doesn't know where It's come from lol


They are after W.Carvalho instead supposedly - and Reus.
zantetsukenz
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16:04 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I can see how you both are in so many arguments when you don't read what is said properly before you jump to conclusions.

I said the Suarez move was planned for, not it was planned. As in, if the deal goes through we know what we need to do. You know, like a 75 million release clause for foreign clubs. That makes sure he doesn't go to a league rival and gives us more than 40 million if he wants to go. We know he's irreplaceable but he stay was untenable. The only nonsense is what you spout yourself.

Markovic was not brought in to get goals, he is a young and talented player with a lot of potential who fits into our club and adds depth which is what we need. Your source is crap because this is the second time I've corrected you about him. He had 5 goals (and 4 assists) which isn't bad for his appearances for Benfica. But he was bought for other reasons.

Lallana isn't a player who needs the team built around him, what he's shown so far over the summer is that he can be a team player.

Lambert, well I've said this before too. He was bought as a third choice striker. He provides something different to the norm and would work well when we need rotation or a plan B. He knows he isn't going to be a first option striker and has said in interviews that as long as he is acknowledged that he trusts the managers judgement of when to play him. It was a dream come true for him to join Liverpool and he was brought in while we still had Suarez, he's not a like for like replacement
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16:27 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Manquillo is a brilliant signing, Coutinho-like in the way of being a great talent brought in for dirt crap because he was neglected by his club. He was breaking in behind Juanfran before he got injured for two months which set him back. A 2 year loan deal with view to buy for less than 5 million and a buy back clause which would see us profit (though I doubt the player would move back if we unlocked his potential and gave him a stating position.

From what we have seen of Liverpool under Rodgers, we have done fine without him both in games he missed when everyone said we would flop and pre-season (less emphasis here, but proven we can cope without him)

The difference between us and Spurs, they bought players to make up for what they lost with Bale not for what they needed (only Eriksen and Soldado were worth buying, they overspent on everyone and they didn't wen make use of Soldado. We bought what we needed and not tried to replace Suarez through numbers (if we had kept Suarez we would have signed erroneous we still have which isn't true for Spurs). We have signed well scouted players who fit the bill and who have something to prove.
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16:28 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Nonsense and more drivel:
You said it's was 'planned for' - not bothered if you meant beforehand or the aftermath - still planned.
He's irreplaceable but won't be missed - another contradiction.

Agree Lazar has a lot of potential which would have been more productive and conclusive if he remained at Benfica. Isn't that what you do like Chelsea, sign players in spite of other teams then loan them straight back to the original club.

Lallana - What he's shown this summer is he can watch from the stands, or his television or from the bench due to injury - very good team player - I have no doubt he will be a quality player, should have remained at Southampton.

Liverpool winning 3 -0 vs Dortmund - WOW must be brilliant definitely going win the Title....LOL - Had their chance last season and slipped up. (Literally)

Lambert 3rd Choice striker, I doubt he would have left his guaranteed position as number 1 striker to be the 3rd, probably been lead down the garden path and ended up at Rodgers Wacky Warehouse. (Liverpool fan or not, nothing replaces playing week in, week out).
zantetsukenz
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16:51 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Not sure what rubbish you're trying to say, but until up learn the difference between planning something happening and making a plan for if something happened then there's no point in talking about it because you would just lack the understanding to take it in.

I'll simplify - you can make plans to go to the beach, you can make plans for if it rains, you can't plan for it to rain. Liverpool didn't plan for Suarez to leave, they just didn't leave themselves with no idea what to do if he left.

If you are referring to the Origi deal, we wanted him to sign immediately but Lille wouldn't sell unless we loaned him back.

Liverpool fans have been grounded, we think we can get top 4 again and we don't expect to win the title because we know how little pre-season results mean. United on the other hand think they are going to jump from 7th to first because of LVG and are using pre-season and LVG's previous record to justify them winning it already. I think it's because United fans just want glory and it blinds them. Whereas as much as Liverpool fans want to win the league, it's just about keeping our CL status because there is nothing like a night of European football.
zantetsukenz
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16:53 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I can see why a United fan would value playing week in week out over a rotation place for your boyhood club because you support the success not the team. Plus you only go on rumour and ignore evidence. Like the 4 players rumoured with a move to United that you guaranteed would be joining: 2 have joined another club, 1 move is dead in the water because United won't cough up the money they claim they will spend and the last player the evidence says he is staying at Juve while the rumours suggest a move to United.
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18:46 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Liverpool to win the League ! i hope lol
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23:05 Sun 10 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I watched Liverpool today they looked a very good team, although i dont think they will finish above Chelsea and Man City so 3rd for them if you ask me
the__priest
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13:08 Tue 12 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
zante

you missed a point, I was saying you cant replace Suarez
so how can you plan for him leaving in the way he did

im sure Rodgers had no idea he was going to bite some one else, Suarez was going to be there for the long term

so im sorry there is no way they planned for it

if they did your telling me Ricky Lambert is the replacement
come on zante even you have to take your blinkers off here

you need Ronaldo to replace Suarez for it to be planned for
that's how good he is
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trust me I want them to sign a great player maybe 3 so we can have Borini hence im showing a lot of interest in Liverpool right now
the__priest
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13:10 Tue 12 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I've got to say Arsenal played really well against City

its only early but jeez they were on fire slick passing and a lot more movement in front of goal, a serious threat this season I think

I know its early, but they were sharp
the__priest
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13:16 Tue 12 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
The Black Cats swiftly rejected a £4million bid from West Ham for Connor Wickham

total joke he is one of the youngest hot properties in the premier league, £4 million cheeky sods
fuunky
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13:40 Tue 12 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
City were poor but it was expected with the team they had out, Arsenal were class tho, there defence looked solid with chambers and debuchy

4 million for wickham is taking the p considering you signed him for 8 lol
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