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beenjammin
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21:18 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
beenjammin vs obnoxious

FCL
5-0, hopefully TBC

SL
4-0, hopefully TBC

We agreed to play them simultaneously (like, first 4 frames of 8us count towards both, and the 5th just for fcl) and started the match. After going down 0-5 in 8us, obnoxious called me a cheat (something about aimbot....?) and logged off
dvz
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21:42 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
LMAO ul m8 gd result :)
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21:43 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
You can't do that surely? He's not here to support or contradict - only 5 frames have been played that's the FCL ONLY. He's deactivated!

We will remove from the team and make a sub continuing from 0-5 to you.

IF this is Allowed/Acceptable then makes a mockery of clan matches!

Edited at 18:50 Mon 04/08/14 (BST)
beenjammin
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21:46 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
been messaging with krazyash, he says we can't do that ^...,
that it should just count for FCL, and we should consider the SL un-started.
I'm not sure if there are any rules on the matter, but if 2 players with 2 matches agree to it before starting (like we did), I don't see anything wrong with it, it's just convenient. I've done it before back in MVP days.
I think it's unfair on me to have to replay the 8us games in either league.
Do we need a ruling from the runners?
chris

Edited at 18:50 Mon 04/08/14 (BST)
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21:48 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
been messaging with krazyash, he says we can't do that ^...,
that it should just count for FCL, and we should consider the SL un-started.
I'm not sure if there are any rules on the matter, but if 2 players with 2 matches agree to it before starting (like we did), I don't see anything wrong with it, it's just convenient.
I think it's unfair on me to have to replay the 8us games in either league.
Do we need a ruling from the runners?
chris


As you mention, if it has been agreed by the 2 players, then surely there is no harm?
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21:49 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
don't know of any ruling saying that all games have to be played at once and you can't mix and match leagues... Can't see any reason why it can't stand so should be 4-0 to Been in SL and 5-0 to been in FCL and games continue from their against new opponents.
crazzymadman
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21:51 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
been messaging with krazyash, he says we can't do that ^...,
that it should just count for FCL, and we should consider the SL un-started.
I'm not sure if there are any rules on the matter, but if 2 players with 2 matches agree to it before starting (like we did), I don't see anything wrong with it, it's just convenient.
I think it's unfair on me to have to replay the 8us games in either league.
Do we need a ruling from the runners?
chris


If you both agree first then I say the results should stick, I remember a few playing this format if you are playing the same player obviously down to the league runners! Just my opinion
beenjammin
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21:52 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
LMAO ul m8 gd result :)

thanks, let's hope it all stands
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21:58 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
been messaging with krazyash, he says we can't do that ^...,
that it should just count for FCL, and we should consider the SL un-started.
I'm not sure if there are any rules on the matter, but if 2 players with 2 matches agree to it before starting (like we did), I don't see anything wrong with it, it's just convenient.
I think it's unfair on me to have to replay the 8us games in either league.
Do we need a ruling from the runners?
chris


If you both agree first then I say the results should stick, I remember a few playing this format if you are playing the same player obviously down to the league runners! Just my opinion


My player at the time is not here to support nor contradict - only evidence is the 5-0 on the results page, that's my problem. Never have i seen nor heard this process, all matches and frames won must be played in accordance to the formats clearly displayed out on the website. IF not then what's the flippin point in having any rules?
zantetsukenz
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22:18 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm not sure if i'm still technically part of the league runners team, but here is my point of view on things:

- There is no rule against simultaneously playing two matches, as long as there is mutual agreeing by the players.
- The opposing player is not online because he appears to have 'rage quit' because he was getting whitewashed, if he isn't here to support or deny the claims then things can't fall in his favour (i'm presuming he will deny this, because if he agrees then there isn't an issue)
- It is in the rules about a player unilaterally leaving games, beenjammin is now eligible to apply for the remaining frames to be awarded to him.

Once started, a game should be played to its conclusion in one sitting unless both players agree to a cessation. Where any player makes a unilateral decision to leave a game then the opposing team may apply for all the remaining unplayed racks to be awarded to them citing the grounds on which the application is made. If the application is successful then this removes any option for the original player to return and finish the remaining racks, or for the use of a substitute under rule 7.5. If the application is not successful then the game returns to the status of a Partially Played Game as per the terms of section 7.


Chris would need to confirm if the simultaneous games would stand or it would just be FCL, but I see no reason why been would lie (especially being 5-0 up)
fuunky
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22:20 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
lol been is one of the fairest players on the site, and clearly doesn't need to make things up, agreed with zante tho no doubt he would deny it if he was here cause he was getting spanked.
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22:27 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I happened to agree with ash and thought this wouldn't stand due to the fact its two completely different leagues but if beenjammin saying he's done this kind of thing before and the result has obviously stood and both players have agreed on it then i don't see a problem really.
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22:41 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
You can't do that surely? He's not here to support or contradict - only 5 frames have been played that's the FCL ONLY. He's deactivated!

We will remove from the team and make a sub continuing from 0-5 to you.

IF this is Allowed/Acceptable then makes a mockery of clan matches!

Edited at 18:50 Mon 04/08/14 (BST)


i don't care what happens BUT if you was 5-0 up you wouldn't be saying it JUST FOR THE RECORD.
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22:43 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
had been asked me beforehand do i mind as captain i would of said no i don't mind... as fuunky said been has no reason to make things up ... wish it could of been posted before the games started that way there would be confirmation .. but ash will throw his toys out the pram in any case so no matter what happens he will only moan if he doesn't get his own way .. something about bigger clans always getting their own way and that yadda yadda yadda.
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22:44 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Would never play 2 matches at same time matty tbh - would play one after the other.
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22:46 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Would never play 2 matches at same time matty tbh - would play one after the other.


I'm saying it shouldn't matter if they agreed it mate ... had obnoxious been 5-0 up yet had to leave you would not be complaining at all.
fuunky
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22:53 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If you have 2 games against the same opponent then I don't see what difference it makes playing 9 of each or 1 match after the other, just saves making double the amount of game rooms and sending double the amount of invites.
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22:57 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If you have 2 games against the same opponent then I don't see what difference it makes playing 9 of each or 1 match after the other, just saves making double the amount of game rooms and sending double the amount of invites.


they didn't do it like that .. they played 5 frames of 8us .. first 4 counted towards super league and the fcl the 5th frame counted towards fcl, they just did it out of convenience and i guess they both backed themselves.
beenjammin
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23:01 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
We weren't doing either of those options ^, we were letting the first 4 frames count for both.
edit: yeah, lol, what matty said , was talking to funky there^

FCL asks that we play 5 of each, SL asks that we play 4 of each. Neither league asked that we play 9 frames of each.
Why shouldn't the same frame be able to count for both?
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23:02 Mon 4 Aug 14 (BST)  [Link]  
davey 6 vs 9 power

8us 3-2
9us 3-2 2 runouts him
8uk 3-2 1 runout him

Hmm i didnt expect this and was caught off guard bigtime.. he hit 3 runouts in a row 2 in 9us and first frame of uk.. Quality player and gonna be a tough match for anyone..
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