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20:20 Wed 1 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Well you never mentioned there could be options for subs before. I'm not fussed at all whatever happens, I just think there would be more defaults if no subs were allowed at all
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23:11 Wed 1 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If you add no subs and swaps that would be god dam silly .. my team is also very very active and every player on my team normally arranges the game as soon as it comes out with the exception of one or two, But stopping subs and swaps altogether i think would be pointless and would only lead to yet more defaults.
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23:36 Wed 1 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If you add no subs and swaps that would be god dam silly .. my team is also very very active and every player on my team normally arranges the game as soon as it comes out with the exception of one or two, But stopping subs and swaps altogether i think would be pointless and would only lead to yet more defaults.


matty i love pros to bits but the above is deffo not a fair representation of pros. I could pick a few that do but a lot more that don't until the second week and a few more that don't until the last couple of days, so no subs would be a huge problem for pros unless you picked the same 8 players that do all the time
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23:38 Wed 1 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I've always found it easy to arrange games against pros, although 9 times out of 10 I get drawn against been
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23:39 Wed 1 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I've always found it easy to arrange games against pros, although 9 times out of 10 I get drawn against been


Lol he was one of those i was classing as did
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23:42 Wed 1 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If you add no subs and swaps that would be god dam silly .. my team is also very very active and every player on my team normally arranges the game as soon as it comes out with the exception of one or two, But stopping subs and swaps altogether i think would be pointless and would only lead to yet more defaults.


matty i love pros to bits but the above is deffo not a fair representation of pros. I could pick a few that do but a lot more that don't until the second week and a few more that don't until the last couple of days, so no subs would be a huge problem for pros unless you picked the same 8 players that do all the time


i said normally i didnt say everytime ... but i dont think we would struggle as much as most clans with the no subs rule .... unbeatables would struggle more, in fact i think every single clan would struggle to a certain extent in all honesty, either way i think its a ludicrous idea.
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23:44 Wed 1 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If you add no subs and swaps that would be god dam silly .. my team is also very very active and every player on my team normally arranges the game as soon as it comes out with the exception of one or two, But stopping subs and swaps altogether i think would be pointless and would only lead to yet more defaults.


matty i love pros to bits but the above is deffo not a fair representation of pros. I could pick a few that do but a lot more that don't until the second week and a few more that don't until the last couple of days, so no subs would be a huge problem for pros unless you picked the same 8 players that do all the time


i said normally i didnt say everytime ... but i dont think we would struggle as much as most clans with the no subs rule .... unbeatables would struggle more, in fact i think every single clan would struggle to a certain extent in all honesty, either way i think its a ludicrous idea.


UB has had a lot less defaults this season than pros so not sure how you come to your decision
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00:10 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If you add no subs and swaps that would be god dam silly .. my team is also very very active and every player on my team normally arranges the game as soon as it comes out with the exception of one or two, But stopping subs and swaps altogether i think would be pointless and would only lead to yet more defaults.


matty i love pros to bits but the above is deffo not a fair representation of pros. I could pick a few that do but a lot more that don't until the second week and a few more that don't until the last couple of days, so no subs would be a huge problem for pros unless you picked the same 8 players that do all the time


i said normally i didnt say everytime ... but i dont think we would struggle as much as most clans with the no subs rule .... unbeatables would struggle more, in fact i think every single clan would struggle to a certain extent in all honesty, either way i think its a ludicrous idea.


UB has had a lot less defaults this season than pros so not sure how you come to your decision


wow u seriously think pros would struggle more than ubs ? most of our defaults have come due to the opposition not our own fault apart from last set of super league which was our fault.
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00:10 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Might be worth a trial with no subs or swaps see how it goes, huts would probs still post asking for subs
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00:12 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If there was no subs or swaps in fbl i would not be entering pros into the league That i can assure you now.
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00:14 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
It will be much harder to get games played imo but you can't tell Chris that, a trial would be interesting tho just to see how it goes

Not sure what would happen when you get inactive opponents, would cause a lot more defaults for sure
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00:15 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
It will be much harder to get games played imo but you can't tell Chris that, a trial would be interesting tho just to see how it goes


No you can't tell Chris that, if Chris wants to implement it he will do ... But he can do so without professionals.
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00:16 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If there was no subs or swaps in fbl i would not be entering pros into the league That i can assure you now.


I thought you said pros would be ok, so why would you not enter if that was the case?

What happens if chris decides all leagues going forward is no subs?
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00:18 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  


What's with the attacking me?? I didn't raise the issue of subs today, I just threw in a point for discussion!!
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00:19 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
If there was no subs or swaps in fbl i would not be entering pros into the league That i can assure you now.


I thought you said pros would be ok, so why would you not enter if that was the case?

What happens if chris decides all leagues going forward is no subs?


Then it would be silly of Chris wouldn't it ? just because i feel pros would be ok it doesn't mean i have to agree with something that is completely ridiculous .. maybe saying 3 subs or something there is a reason football had to start having subs despite firstly never having them.
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00:21 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I actually think even though it is extreme, it would be interesting as the games against active players would always get played and it would be the same players that ended up with defaults, maybe it is the best way ever to make clans pick active players and players who put effort into getting games done as opposed to a top player who makes no effort but expects a sub if he comes on late in the fixture just so he can play the fixture, that game in my opinion has no reason why it should not go to default if he makes no effort until the end.
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00:22 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I actually think even though it is extreme, it would be interesting as the games against active players would always get played and it would be the same players that ended up with defaults, maybe it is the best way ever to make clans pick active players and players who put effort into getting games done as opposed to a top player who makes no effort but expects a sub if he comes on late in the fixture just so he can play the fixture, that game in my opinion has no reason why it should not go to default if he makes no effort until the end.


i think the way they do it on snooker is good .. if a player has two defaults in a time period he gets banned for x amount of fixtures .
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00:23 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  


What's with the attacking me?? I didn't raise the issue of subs today, I just threw in a point for discussion!!


i didnt attack you i just said if u implement it pros wont be entering :P
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00:25 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  


What's with the attacking me?? I didn't raise the issue of subs today, I just threw in a point for discussion!!


Lol I wasn't attacking you, you just seemed to have an answer for everything I said that didn't agree with it, but as I said I'm not fussed whatever you choose 2 do.
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00:30 Thu 2 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Just on football metaphors. Another way of looking at it would be that a Sunday league team is given a fixture to play. If they don't turn up and play that fixture they forfeit the result. They don't ask another team (or their reserve team) to play instead. Here the fixture window is two weeks long not 10am on a cold wet Sunday morning at the local park!! If you don't turn up or make the effort to play you forfeit.

Just a counter point of view.
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