thats fine matey, its a bit boring when forums is dead

you should finish your match but sometimes you do get the odd rage quitter who leaves to stop the rot sort of speak.

good example is Ding in this Snooker Championship, i think he lost 6-2 in first session which if matched finished in one session then Ding would have lost, Ding then came firing in all cylinders.

Ding didn't ragequit but you get the picture why some people rage quit

Then they should be immediately reported or posted on a Complaints thread and dealt with by the League Runner I think. No one else should get involved just the League Runner and their Captain to determine, 'what they hell happened lol?'

I never quit, even if I'm losing 34-19 in straight, I've come back and won, so never give in and always believe lol.

In any sport its never over till its over so never quit cause u could turn it around

There is no argument, the draws for the season are done completely at random. Some people and clans do not actually play for the league but for enjoyment and fun so even if the league was decided in a few fixtures teams would still play.

I find the above highly unlikely though as if you see the schedule you will see that there is some clans playing other "small" clans first and they could have big scorelines. Any clan can hold their own though as everyone knows so anything is possible.

I for one am not going to sit around to make a schedule that suites you and the way you think. Always been done at random and im not going to change that.

There is six or seven big teams (player quality wise, by stats) either can beat anyone on their day as Pre Seasons showed.

To keep interest in a league it makes sense to try and leave the big games till the end as last season we beat SS in an early round and the rest of the season was pointless as everyone knew that pros were going to win the league and those who said they might not were just being pessimistic. From the draw that has been done you will be in a position unless the supposed 'big clans' all beat each other then there will be nothing to play for after fixture 2 as if one clan beats their main rivals in the first 2 fixtures the winner of FCL will be more or less known unless that clan has a major collapse. This means all the remaining fixtures are pretty much pointless. Prior to you running the league Jay, the fixtures were always done so the big teams played in the last couple of fixture sets to keep the league interesting and still up for grabs throughout the season.

If you think it is pointless then why play. Yes prior to me running the league, James and Kev never done anything that way. Im not going to change something i have done and learned to do now am i, taken on board for next season.

I think if the bonus points awarded (20) were still low like last season (10), the outcome of one fixture wouldn't mean much. (and I think it'd be more accurate, but maybe we shouldn't go there )
And it wouldn't matter when who plays who, even if there were only 2 competitive teams.

Edited at 22:05 Thu 06/06/13 (BST)

I do agree with horse slightly as it makes for a more exciting league when the league goes down to the last few games. But as a league runner myself i also can see where Jay is coming and i personally haven't done it the way chris does but i am intrigued how he works it out.

its just the way the draw is look at premier league last yr villa vs wigan could of been interesting if wigan beat arsenal but premier league never predicted that would be a very important fixture it only becomes important when uve been beat by teams u expected to beat so I think fixtures should be drawn randomly and not have top 2 favs play each other at the end no faith in upsets lol

What about a NEW FEATURE of a "TIME OUT" called by a player if things are going so badly ?

The clan can call this once per fixture set and insert a sub mid game.

Obviously the original player is exempt from subbing into another game as so is the sub in the fixture set.

Also a maximum of 2 "TIME OUT'S" allowed per player per season.

This could help partial played games....and avoid a default.

I think its a good idea myself as well, although it could still lead to further things. Also it would resolve more than not I say.. If It was to be implemented, id implement it / look into it, for next season.

Good Idea, but could be used more as a 'convenience card', players saving it for either against the best players, or when a match is being played late and they are getting thrashed versus someone they usually could win against.

Is it really fair after 2 players arranging a certain time and date to play, cancelling other commitments for if/when 1 of them are losing just to decide to use a 'Timeout', I say personally anyone who does that and does not give justification to their Captain should be prohibited from the next fixture set.

That way the Captains and League Runners will be able to ascertain who actually wants to represent their team properly.

There is a rule in place that already helps with those situations and it worked very well with Pre Season games may i add

It does involve the player who left the game to be removed from the team though, that is punishment on the player that did it. Can also be punishment to the clan in a way as they lose a player but that the risk clans take everyday with players.

Completion bonus is back also so i hope that this cuts down the defaults this season.

1 division = 1 winner simple.

If completion bonus is back, you can't be releasing games days early. That gives the teams that have a game an advantage over other teams that have a bye in that set.
Unless you can guarantee that games will always be released "early" throughout the season.

Late vote Fran and on the wrong league

I don't see it as an advantage at all as i have done it before and got more defaults because of an early release. If people sent in lists early enough and also other games where completed early enough then i would more than likely release early each fortnight.

Saying this though it is just over 24 hours until the games are due to be released (midnight Sunday) i don't see an extra day if that as being an advantage in the slightest to be honest.

It is not days though remember that (I would never release games like two - three days early, done it once but that was due to personal reasons at the time)

Yes, but it's 24 hours longer than other teams may have to get a fixture completed. That in itself is unfair to those teams that have a bye (when there's a completion bonus).

I still don't see how, each team has a game in every fixture except for the last one as some will play all theirs before then.

If a game does not get finished then a request for completion can be made by the team that feel hard done by anyway. In reality the completion bonus helps out every single team so everyone will be looking to get their games done. This is where the anyone can make a sub or sub into a game on deadline day helps as it does get games played. Team have proven they can get games done with the Pre Season bar one game with Snooker Squad and Eagles (which was down to Eagles i am led to believe)

If you see it that way, that's fine.
But it's a simple logical argument. Certain teams will have more time to complete games than others if games are released early sometimes, and therefore have more of a chance of getting the bonus.
I'm just bringing it up here because it was correctly brought up two seasons ago in the league I run.

I understand where you are coming from...

Luckily this season my division two doesn't have this problem as they all get 2 games a piece. Everyone in division 1 has at least 1 game. Assuming all team lists are in on time, I will happily release "early" every fixture set