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dgeneratio
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23:57 Thu 4 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
A suggestion regarding swaps in FBL, im sure i spoke to seb about this a while ago.
Currently if a player is subbed out of a game type, and both of those games are then played, the player that was subbed out cannot be swapped into a different game type.
To help reduce defaults next season, why not allow for the player that
has been subbed out of a game, to be swapped into a different game type if needed.
Although it still uses one of the swaps, it will encourage teams to make subs to get games played,knowing that they can swap the removed player back into a game,
rather than have an active player at the end of a fixture who cannot play.


Just wondered if this had been looked into for the new season ?


not sure but i like the idea not really fond of that one swap rule as that can be cause for defaults as well, you shouldn't need to swap a 9 ball game for a 9 ball game unless its an activity/timezone issue but unlimited swaps to other modes should be allowed as well but thats just my view

ill link Jay here so he can see
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00:42 Fri 5 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Teams could pick and choose match ups that way, it's fine the way it is
cke1982
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14:06 Fri 5 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
i think u should be able to swap and still sub in to the same game type or different game type it shouldnt be u play 9 ball u can be subbed out but only sub in to 9 ball when u could need someone to sub in to 8us and 9 ball has been played
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16:07 Fri 5 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
One of the best things about FBL is that you dont know who will be playing what discipline when you pick your team. If you start giving people swaps like that it will mean captains can swap their teams around to get more favourable match ups
whocares8x8
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16:19 Fri 5 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Yes, the limit of 1 swap should remain.

The scenario that was described above is mainly for the case where a player is subbed out of a game. The replacement then plays the game. Now, the player that was subbed out is not eligible to play in any other game, even if the team still has its swap left. So that makes it a disadvantage to sub because you are essentially eliminating a player.

So the suggestion was just to be allowed to sub that removed player into another game (thereby using your 1 swap) instead of having him out of the fixture entirely.
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16:57 Fri 5 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
No limits on subs though seb so that would be used to circumvent the 1 swap rule not work alongside it.
bluenose1872
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00:12 Sat 6 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree with Lee, if changed the system will just be abused to set up games. I have been having the same problem with the FCL as of late and last season where i would release the games and within 12 hours of release there would be around 5 - 6 substitutions made and half of them by the one team, why send in a team sheet with players you want on it when you are just going to change it within 12 - 24 hours of release. That was my main issue last season with all of that. So i have been thinking about limiting the number of subs in FCL or maybe saying no subs allowed for the first week of games (not many would like that)
dgeneratio
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01:29 Sat 6 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
thats fine however it should be allowed if that team didn't send a list into you or a person is inactive for 7 days or more.

Edited at 22:37 Fri 05/10/12 (BST)
the__priest
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01:53 Sat 6 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
i mentioned this a long while ago re FCL

what was the point in having swaps, you sub players in and out, and its unlimited so why do u need swaps, you can sub every player,, move them in a and out.

the usual crowd killed me and said it all helps to get games played and reduce defualts, seems a bit of a shift now i see

with FBL it seems dumb to sub a player out of say uk then the player is ineligble to play again , wonderful for big teams, what about teams with 9 nd 10 players, i see 2 teams with this amount of players in, which could mean a team folding or having many defaults
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02:39 Sat 6 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
As the season hasn't started, surely the point should be made, captains should only have players playing for them that are reliable. Unlimited swaps is definately up for abuse and what exactly was wrong with the system we had last year. Not that many defaults apart from a couple of teams standing out!

If you choose to captain a clan, you choose your players. If come the end of the fixture you can't get it played because of limited swaps should the captain, one, evaluate the players they have in their clans and, two, evaluate wether they are up to being a captain.

Always on about making captains lives easier on these threads. They decide to run a clan therfor decide to sometimes give them a bit of work at the end of the two weeks. If they are not up for it then i suggest they step down as a captain now before the season starts.
whocares8x8
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04:25 Sat 6 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
No limits on subs though seb so that would be used to circumvent the 1 swap rule not work alongside it.
No, but once a player has been named in a certain game type, that player can't go to another game type, even if he has been subbed out. That would be considered a swap. So you can't move players around freely. Only once.
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14:12 Sat 6 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Just leave it how it is
bluenose1872
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14:37 Sat 6 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
So everyone knows. Inpossibles and Fighting Eagles have backed out of pre season in the FBL so games are changing a bit, i will message all captains involved to show there new team to play soon except for Snooker Squad and Mouseketeers as they know their new opponent.
punkpoet
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21:31 Sat 6 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
So everyone knows. Inpossibles and Fighting Eagles have backed out of pre season in the FBL so games are changing a bit, i will message all captains involved to show there new team to play soon except for Snooker Squad and Mouseketeers as they know their new opponent.


Ermmmm do we? only just found out whilst browsing inpossibles thread lol.
bluenose1872
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18:48 Sun 21 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Right ladies,

Myself and mattywellie have been talking recently about the FBL and as of next season i am going to step down as league runner/head runner as i don't have the time to do this and the FCL (which has my full attention), Matty also will not have the time to do any league stuff next season due to his baby coming. James has stated before that he would not like to run the league as he is busy with snooker and events he runs. For this season though you have my services and Matty's to.

So as of next season this league will have no full time runner so we are offering to take on new runners now to show them how it is done and what not, if we feel you dont quite cut it to run the full league then you will be gone of course so if you want to apply then please send us a message and let us know.

If nothing works out then how would you guys be with the FBL folding up and leaving it on a good note? I said recently that three leagues if far to much and as of now i think the main main leagues are the FCL and the Super League as people seem to enjoy them both more and Super League is more enjoyed than the FBL.
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18:55 Sun 21 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I think FBL is better than Super League to be honest, hope this gets taken on by someone with the time to do it
When you say next season mate do you mean the season starting now or the one after?
bluenose1872
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18:57 Sun 21 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
The one after mate, i wouldn't leave it now so close to the season plus i have all the league things the FBL needs. I also want to see someone with the time and commitment to do this as well.
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19:06 Sun 21 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree 2 is enough so one folding would be a good thing
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19:08 Sun 21 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree 2 is enough so one folding would be a good thing


Or you could just not join all 3
horse10000
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19:10 Sun 21 Oct 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree 2 is enough so one folding would be a good thing


Or you could just not join all 3


We never did as MVP

For the reason that 2 is enough
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