Rule clearly states to "form a clan of their own", doesn't say anything about captaining a clan and at what point it is acceptable to do so

There is a quote on your team page that says everything about captaining a clan like i previously stated. I'll add existing and new clans to that rule if you want but everyone knows the rules so shouldn't really have to, never been a problem before.

You both Ant and Emma should know this, now if you don't mind i have an errand to run, good day

I'm not quite sure who your post is aimed at, but it would be nice to have actual rules that apply on the site in black and white, I dont know how you expect new users to know rules if they arent there, no one is a mind reader

Here's the rule for the post above:

At all times, the FCL staff reserve the right to take any decision, or make any ruling, that they believe is in the best interests of the competition(s).

ALL DECISIONS ARE FINAL !!!

By participating in any of the FCL competitions, clans and their players are agreeing to these rules and any decisions made by the League hosts.




Host's made clear their ruling, people need to get on with it instead of trying to bring the league into disrepute instead of trying to find a loophole to benifit themselves

Benefit ourselves? Not sure what you mean, bl3ss3d has accepted he can not be captain in FCL and is only trying to get the rule in black and white so no confusion is caused for new members in the future

Seems more like he just wants to vent frustration at runners. If it was for the benefit of new members then he wouldn't be having a go at league runners and causing arguments.


A polite reminder, on here or private message is all it needed

Exactly what bl3ss3d tried to do, and got told it will be amended at some point when a league runner can be bothered to do so. Isn't it better and easier to get it done rather than make comments in return like that?

Players who are new to clans will be unaware that rule exists.

Personally I'd rather just write the rule correctly than keep saying "I'll do it when i can be bothered, not when you tell me"

But it won't be amended as there is no need for it... carry on or move on either way it will not be amended if it doesn't need to be.

How can you say it dont need to be amended? It only states about new clans and the experience needed to create one, it says nothing about experience needed to be a captain of an existing clan

How about you just drop it? Jay has already explained the rule and has given his answer to the original question, he has a personal life and commitments which takes precedence over a website, whether he is league runner or not.

Stop trying to cause trouble.

Why would it ever be any different for somebody captaining an existing clan?
Bit of common sense and a bit less numptyism and i'm sure it will be clear schutzenmouthzen

a very simple solution to a situation where rules are twisted and turned to suit individuals, but not if your not in the famous 5
give the player the authority to make subs and swaps with captains full permission, then the player can do what they want, its not against the rules, it dosnt say this is against the rules in fact its not even in the rules.
needless to say MVP, jays own clan does this all the time, in fact they dont just give one player permission its the whole team, so all im saying is add in the player has permission to make subs and pick teams, submit team lists, all very easy really

no rules apply here because there are none, MVP have already set the example all very easy

i don't see MVP giving permission to do team changes, only subs which is allowed, team changes should only be done by captain or vice no one else, if a captain gave permission for everything above then thats you becoming a captain as thats what a captain does which it would be a loophole in rules.

Jay made it quite clear that existing clans would be included with the one season experience, smart move imo.

think of it this way, you limit peoples abilities

for example...

Member - play games
Moderator - Run Forum and Boot People
Admin - the above, contact us, ban people etc

so more in title you are bigger the responsibility.

in league it would be.

Member - play games (and make subs if captain gives permission)
Captain/Vice - do teamsheets, subs, team changes etc
Default Staff - do defaults only
League Runner - defaults and run entire league

so just cut Jay some slack yes?

I agree :-)

Craig cut the crap out pal, i don't actually understand what you mean nor understand it so you won't get a reply as James did that for me above

I remember back on page 7(don't look it up and try and prove me wrong because you will get no response from me and I don't care if it was page 7 or 27) or something there was basically the same argument about the same thing... jeez do you guys never get bored of the same thing?

It is pretty simple, if you haven't got a seasons experience on your current name you can not captain a clan...

As far as I am aware last season MVP told league runners they were giving players permission to sub into games if none of the captains/vice captains were online, only did this in the last week too.

Now I cba reading back about 20 pages to see the whole of the argument because I have a life but just have a bit of common sense ay?

Thank you for reading, and if you didn't then screw you!
(No one should be offended by that last statement because if you did read it then I was not referring to you.)

Good bye.

Edited at 13:24 Mon 11/06/12 (BST)

I read it and hope nothing was thrown towards me

But yes MVP did give permission for players to sub themselfs in and stuff like Mich said this was always in the last week of a fixture. FBL also accepted that MVP gave permission to do this. So no one can point out i was done it for the best of my clan, each clan had the chance to do this when ever they wanted. Vipers used it along with Shooters to and a few others.

Only thing throw towards you was this...

^ the glass part

Was trying to conceal that bit to see if he let the flowers and teddy bear bounce off his head...