Nobody on here gives a rat's about snooker eemad they can play their clan games naked, smeared in jelly and standing on their heads for all I care

If you have other suggestions for improvement, post on the discussion thread over there ("the bright side").

I want a piece of that jelly covered body

Think we filled a league thread in under a week before actually! Then again funkypool has always been the best for clan play in my opinion.

i think everyone knows me frog i just skip and hop around

You will do after this season.

Now that sounds like a new clan league to join :)

ive noticed a possible flaw with defaults (no ones fault) but when i 'practice' i tend to be in the chat room practising my breakoff (mostly UK) and i can be doing that for at least an hour but the key point is it doesn't appear on results page etc so you have no 'proof' that you did in fact practice unless you state it in your messages report.

question is would the defaults team believe your word for it?

Doesnt usually come down to that though, usually in defaults its clear whether if its one parties fault or if they are blatantly missing eachother or that its one clans fault for not making any attempt to sub etc.

Can't take people's word for things but there is usually evidenve around and we do dig around for it.

I assume that any new signing is free to be subbed straight into the friendly games?

No, pretty sure it's the same rules as during the season. Otherwise, the friendlies wouldn't be much of a test of reliability of clans.
They have to be on the list that was sent in beforehand.

OK - but by the same argument the games are not necessarily going to paint a true picture of the clan unless new signings are also taken into account at the end of the period if required.

seb is right otherwise you could have the 'month account age' argument again, each game (even friendlies) should be played with league guidelines

Nothing to do with the age of any accounts.

Teams can continue to sign free players. Indeed with Captain's permission they can sign any player they want.

You could have the situation where a team that is unreliable during the friendlies actually by the end is very stable and vice-versa.

Almost makes the friendlies worthless in respect of what their aim is. If indeed there is actually much worth to them anyway in reality.

^^^^^ something i have allways said pre-season surposed to be to prove reliabilty, so if clan sign new player how can they see if he reliable, and give all teams a chance,

when season starts then quarentee should start.

but i would add if they sign a player who has allready played for a team in pre season then they should be tied.

i would say there is, as you say to prove reliability, if you could sub players in who are quarantined normally why not let anyone just play.

thats what the argument would be so its better to keep it to league guidelines otherwise theres no point in having the friendlies at all.

The point is that teams which haven't played a lot of games close to the deadline could just go to the chat room, ask a bunch of random people to play their games and thus make it into the league.

Regarding taking new signings into account- when I was a member of the defaults panel, I always looked at whether the clan had signed more players during the preseason friendlies and made my judgement based on that. So it does get taken into account (at least by some).

Preseason friendlies are supposed to prove reliability of the clan to make it through a season, not whether single players will get games done. Captains can arrange their own friendlies anytime to test their players.

Or turn it round completely and have the lock down post friendlies when you are in a position to take into account everything that has happened during the period.

To take decisions that arent based on the full facts is a little silly. (Although if all are viewing them like Seb then that makes it a little better!!)

I would be all for doing away with the friendlies to be honest but I do accept that a two league structure doesn't cope well with drop outs.

I would actually prefer to do without friendlies as a qualifying criteria and see all the league runners get together and judge the applications for entry and if needs be make harsh decisions on who they grant access to ahead of a season. Decisions would be based on who is in charge of the clan, who is likely to play and their past records.

I also think its pretty clear that there is not a sufficient playing base to support more than 12 clans so say right from the outset that 12 will be the maximum with 2 leagues of 6.

Almost like granting franchises to the 12 most suitable applicants of which 10 probably always pick themselves automatically anyway. All players that then want to play in the season can see which teams have been accepted, see where any spaces are in the teams and contact the relevant captains.

that a ok idea of 12 clans max as it would also help prevent foldings.

as there be a backup sorce of players.

but also could upset some people

why don't you just make it one league then if that the case everyone play each other twice
as so many teams folded at the end of last season