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03:00 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
You miss the point that you are not deciding over one match, you are still deciding over a whole season. However the two best teams will have beaten all of the other clans hence why it would come down to a deciding match in the last fixture between those teams.

You just said you're not, and that you are in the same paragraph! Are you not admitting that it IS decided by one match at the end of the season?


Only because those two unbeaten teams happen to play each other in the last game of the season. They could be drawn to play in the first game of the season but that pretty much renders every other match meaningless.
beenjammin
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03:14 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
That would solve my problem as well as counting frames (would make a single match so accurate it wouldn't matter), but I agree it's not practical

Again about the team thing, both methods are played by individuals and added together, one is no more team-based than the other. Not your points system, but your format, is the most team-based I've seen

You're entitled to your belief, but I still don't think it's any different than a long drawn out cup. Not nearly as accurate as it could be.
beenjammin
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03:16 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
The avbove was in response to your previous post.

Nothing is rendered meaningless when you count frames

Gotta go, supper time, been fun
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03:20 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It would be 100% meaningless because you would already have lost to the best team in the league.

Maybe if there was only one league then you could have a series of long fixtures.

I assume you would prefer a league with real challenge? Why not play in a team where you would have to play the better players rather than in a team where you can avoid playing up to 15 of them?
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03:24 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
^boom.
whocares8x8
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03:47 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
hey chris, am I getting this right-
per fixture:
3 pairs of non-killer games, worth a total of 18 points.
3 pairs of killer games, worth a total of 6 points
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03:55 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
hey chris, am I getting this right-
per fixture:
3 pairs of non-killer games, worth a total of 18 points.
3 pairs of killer games, worth a total of 6 points


Yeh was meant to reflect an even number of points (6) per game type.
whocares8x8
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03:57 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
mm understandable. But the killer games seem worthless now!
I would suggest maybe making each killer game worth 2 points (either this season or that's my first improvement suggestion for next).
whocares8x8
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03:59 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
oh and I'm liking the non-killer game pairing system very much. Adds a whole new layer to these games.
Unless SOMEONE posts the scores wrongly and then I have the wrong tactics!!
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04:01 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
OK noted for the season end. I did have concerns about the length of time to play 2 Killer games compared to 6 racks of the other game types too.
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04:01 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Each game of doubles currently has 6 points available from the 3 game types.

As we are playing 2 v 2 at killer why not 2 points for 1st place and 1 point for second place each game, This would mean each killer game would also have 6 points available as it does seem low with only 2 points for the 2 games of killer.
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04:33 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
oh and I'm liking the non-killer game pairing system very much. Adds a whole new layer to these games.
Unless SOMEONE posts the scores wrongly and then I have the wrong tactics!!


I dislike them. I prefer the less complicated way of if you win 5 games you get 5 points.
I think its overly complicated and im still not 100% sure on the scorings tbh.
beenjammin
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04:34 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
keith's post: Good idea, I agree that there isn't enough points being rewarded for the killer games.
beenjammin
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04:37 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It would be 100% meaningless because you would already have lost to the best team in the league.

One measly fixture, didn't you say yourself it's not enough to decide?
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04:38 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
keith's post: Good idea, I agree that there isn't enough points being rewarded for the killer games.


I didnt want it to appear like a Killer orientated league compared to the other game types. But if people want it changed it can be.
beenjammin
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04:39 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  

I assume you would prefer a league with real challenge? Why not play in a team where you would have to play the better players rather than in a team where you can avoid playing up to 15 of them?


That was just rude, and has nothing to do with our debate about frames or fixtures.
beenjammin
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04:41 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
oh and I'm liking the non-killer game pairing system very much. Adds a whole new layer to these games.
Unless SOMEONE posts the scores wrongly and then I have the wrong tactics!!


I dislike them. I prefer the less complicated way of if you win 5 games you get 5 points.
I think its overly complicated and im still not 100% sure on the scorings tbh.

Less complicated and more accurate
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04:43 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It is not rude at all. You want the longest possible games to allow the better player to win. If that is the case then you want to play those games against the best opponents surely.

The lesser players would want the shortest number of frames to maximise their own chances.

You seem to want the best of both worlds. The most frames but against the lesser players.
beenjammin
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04:43 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
keith's post: Good idea, I agree that there isn't enough points being rewarded for the killer games.


I didnt want it to appear like a Killer orientated league compared to the other game types. But if people want it changed it can be.


Great, the killer is the part of it that's so team-based in my opinion. This would give the teambased aspect more weight.
beenjammin
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04:46 Sun 2 Jun 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It is not rude at all. You want the longest possible games to allow the better player to win. If that is the case then you want to play those games against the best opponents surely.

The lesser players would want the shortest number of frames to maximise their own chances.

You seem to want the best of both worlds. The most frames but against the lesser players.


I want the most frames so the league is more accurate. The team I choose to be in, or the players I hope to play against has nothing to do with it.
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