This is the guy who tried to sabotage the league the other season.

Voice of reason clearly!

Like above another issue that will cause an argument, let that be the end of it please.

Get facts straight mark you know nothing but belive what u like at least i aint a evil twisted bully like u and the keybord worriors.

Just get on with ur little life and play nice for a change.

Edited at 16:50 Thu 19/01/12 (GMT)

Fine by me just wish people woud get facts right.

So jay when new season starting vipers getting itchy feet.

Cool cant wait thanks for that i put it my book.

he has a lil black book and then gets all excited when the time comes :P

That is only a rough guideline, transfer window - i will accept people moving before the 10th aslong as i get the full updated team sheet and so on before i release the pre season games.

I tried to sort the schedule to make the wait for the new season shorter, but to be honest the way it looked it could have been done but would be very time consuming and tight, especially if personal reasons came into it and i was busy or who ever else was.

Hey m8 clans can play friendlys till pre season starts which means test new players.

On top of that regarding the clans being asked to send in their team sheets for next set of games, i will be sticking to a time for asking and releasing games.

So for example i if a fixture set deadline is the 29th of January i would be asking for team list to be sent on the Thursday which would be the 26th you would then have till Saturday the 28th @ Midnight to send in your lists for games. This means i would have more time to sort out the games.

All fixtures next season will be released on Sunday at 8PM! (UK Time) they maybe a little later if i am busy with personal stuff but they will be released on the Sunday no earlier or later!

This was already discussed between runners and myself, think it is much easier just to test the reliability of a clan by making them all play the games. This does not include division one & two winners as they get a free pass into the next season. If games are un even because of that then i don't think either winners would have a problem helping out to make up the numbers as they are in the new season anyway.

Why does my name get thrown into the sentence? I'm not worried about my keyboard and I wasn't part of this discussion. I wouldn't give it at me cos you don't like it when you get it back

Lee, i did say enough is enough man come on, you have said something so lets leave it at that shall we.

Anything need discussing at all?

Jay your schedule says team lists in by Friday Midnight, thats what its always been.

Don't think we have ever been accused of harrassing anyone or being unreasonable in the slightest seb.
If someone doesn't turn up when they say they are going to twice and we're into the second week we're perfectly entitled to ask for subs.
If someone is offline for 4/5 days and we're into the second week it's reasonable to ask politely for subs.
The fact that someone active was repeatedly offering to sub in and was ignored in the end for another 'better' player who wasn't active added to more frustration for our players...what about their enjoyment?
If the people that get defaults didn't take it all so seriously we wouldn't get them because they wouldn't hang on in the vain hope that their 'better' player would come online.
So pretending you aren't competitive yourself doesn't wash with me

i think lethal_lures mentioned about possibly changing the golden cue. can pete explain what he means please? also what does people think?

personally ive enjoyed the golden cue we have had, on the downside the table wasn't updated until the final 3 fixture sets so wasn't a true reflection but from updating division 2, someone can lose top quite quickly even through a 9-6 win or loss as we saw between dvz and whocares8x8. anyways i won't be here to update next season but i have enjoyed updating it (despite feeling exhausted afterwards). lots of twists and turns around the golden cue (which is a good thing).

Previous seasons golden cue was predictable (top scorers certainly was but points per game had the same feeling frames percentage does), my favourite golden cue moment was when destiny won top scorers and ab_rfc beat destiny by 0.1 on points per game.

so what does people think of the golden cue then?

Jay he had no reason to mention me at all, I wasn't even here or part of any discussion so I answered, no need for your comment.

That is for the pre season games though that one, if i was to do that through the whole of next season i need to give two days for them to be sent in so i would have to ask for them on Wednesday and have the deadline for them on Friday @ Midnight. It is a days difference though does it really matter?

I know your name should not have been brought up, in a way you had a right to then reply to it but this will just lead to a massive argument again. So there is a need for my comment.

Edited at 16:52 Thu 19/01/12 (GMT)