sorry you dont like it but i think my idea works better than what we have now... even dgen's idea was similar to mine.

ab... you complain about the snooker squads default results but arent opening your mind to new ideas... under my idea snooker squad would have received no points through defaults an advantage to all other clans but advantage to them would be not losing any for at least trying to get it played.... its like you want it both ways?

maybe do with chris suggested a few seasons ago, have a default for individual people so not like a 7-7 score etc but say if you had that scenario (i think chris (cp) said) then it would be +15 for player A for being extremely active (unless of course no messages was sent then could be touch lower) and -15 for Player B for not logging on once.

you have a scale -15 to 15 do each person individually to see how much they have done to get the game played.

Under the rules at the moment they should have scored about half the points they did get which actually would be a fairer reflection. By their own admission they had 2 or 3 'truly inactive' players who were scoring 7 or 8 points each.

As did we (the Underdogs) I might add.

Exactly if player A has missed a couple of days, doesn't have a list of messages chasing for the game to get done, hasn't posted asking for a sub then depending on how much of this he has his points could be anything.

If people can't play games within 2 weeks, and they message eachother, and try and get in contact, then captains should use subs more.... And get a stronger squad, even if it's Tom, Richard or Harry.

(It wouldn't let me say the nickname for Richard.....)

I'm sorry but if you honestly believe all that you've got me worried for the FCL.
Read what people are posting, your idea won't work and its not just me saying it,

Snooker squad deserved points for the fixtures that weren't played. The point as chris has stated that as their players were inactive and even SS admit this. The default should have applied possibly a 4-4 instead of a 7-7 etc.

but then you are still rewarding points for unplayed frames whether one person was online or not, i dont think this is fair especially if the league can be won on a default decision....

....least my way you only win on the points you have earnt!

Totally inactive players. 0 - 0 not 7 - 7

You have earnt it, you've done everything in YOUR power, to get the game completed! Including working around you opponents times he's online.

From what i can see it is mainly the players who have been around for all/most the seasons are saying that we need defaults. From experience of playing in the season for as long as i have without defaults this league will not exist.

I am sure others who have been over the learning curve of many seasons would agree with this.

Do you mean as per the actual rules at present?

if the frames are not physically played, then you shouldnt be awarded the points

You could also not win the league as a player chooses not to play you as his team is winning by a point with one game to play. Why would he play the last game he wouldn't.

arguments won't stop imo, even without the league it would continue as some users are so alike (like my brother and sister) and when they collide you know about it its hard to ignore them unless you don't look at those threads but since arguments is a non stopper.

about what Jay posted about 1 member of defaults team could work, also what was posted, see what effort a clan has made to get the game played, make sure clans are aware to send in information by the deadline (had this problem a lot this season and a few defaults has been affected by it), and rate the individuals in the default separate rather than together.

I mean, re-write the rules.

because keith, refusal to play results in a point deduction

^^

And so it should! but thats not the opponents fault for not getting the game played.

Lol yes as per the actual rules which do not get applied.

0-0 (No effort and no activity by both) 2-2 (very small amount of effort, activity by both) 4-4 (A few messages back and forth and a reasonable activity by both) 7-7 (Lots of messages, posts, activity by both but game wasn't played)


A few examples of how to apply logic to defaults.