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ab_rfc
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23:08 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
ab_rfc said:
Craig its not changing to 20, its changed to 16 as a compromise, which is fair.


Compromise suggests that there were a lot of people wanting an increase there wasn't, just you and horse with everyone posting against it even the 2 league runners but that's all that's needed really isn't it...wouldn't want to upset the captain would we.

When did you change your name to everyone ?

Joking aside, a few people including league runners were against increasing to 20 but thought 16 was a good idea, I don't think the league runners would've changed it if only 2 people wanted it, and where did I post saying I wanted 16 or more ?, might be wrong but I don't think I did.
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23:33 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just so you know, it is not just me and Jay running the league, horse10000 is also a league runner for next season and so is anoneeemouse

horse10000 suggested 20
i suggested keeping it the same
jay decided 16... not everything needs to be run past people on this thread

that is how 16 was arrived at, compromise!

ab_rfc said:
Sorry guys but are no one elses ideas allowed to be passed or does everyone need to run them past you first, seems to me that everything thats suggested is knocked back by you two, sorry but the league is here for all of us and you can't keep everyone happy when it comes to changes, and believe it or not that includes you two
^Absolutely right !

this is not about previous leagues, we have a new head league runner who i imagine wants to create the league as he wants it hence why he wanted the job and make his mark on it, lets give him a chance without shooting down every change he wishes to implement... try it, you might like it
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23:39 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Already posted the bits where jem didn't agree to any increase and gave the same reasons as the everyone else who posted on the subject.
Jay did originally say maybe 16 but absolutely no need for it whatsoever as 15 was loads to get games done.
It's been decided now but totally ridiculous that the very same people always preaching about going with the majority when it suits them just push through changes that the majority don't want and coincedentally only benefit the very best teams of which they're part of.
That's a whole other good clan that could be playing next season but won't be too.
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01:09 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
big_mouse said:
wonderman said:
Agreed Big_mouse, would stop BIG teams folding them coming back and smashing div 2


that stop a lot of people making new clans as well and give them a better chance of getting a few good players
also did not like your comment the best teams smash the lower teams
let me tell you one thing i have some good players that get in a team
as for myself like a few in my team would give any player a run for they money


Who said i was calling your team a "small team"? before you start having a go, try and get your facts right
dgeneratio
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01:29 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
well lee whether you like it or not its staying and stop complaining about something what won't be changed.

i agree with Seb on the capped front but i don't get why i should even consider capping the thread since its a discussion thread but sometimes sacrifices need to be made.

why can't pool be as civilised as snooker?

anyway lets move onto a new topic.
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01:53 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yes!
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01:58 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
OK then new topic we all want less teams folding and restarting so why does a captain have the right to hand over a clan and then fold it?
No reason I can see wolf pack couldn't carry on and dex still run 8's as strikelucky8 was handed the captaincy earlier this season.
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02:19 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
ab_rfc said:
Craig its not changing to 20, its changed to 16 as a compromise, which is fair.


Compromise suggests that there were a lot of people wanting an increase there wasn't, just you and horse with everyone posting against it even the 2 league runners but that's all that's needed really isn't it...wouldn't want to upset the captain would we.


What a stupid and unnecessary comment to even make.

Just because i play for MVP does not mean i bow down to the captain(s). I have more clans to keep an eye on and my time with MVP is to play some clan games, get some points.

Being a league runner and being a player are totally two different things in my book, I play for my clan but i do league running to help with the league, no decisions have been made just because i play for a clan!
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02:32 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Well there was only 2 people asking for bigger clans both in your clan...thought league runners normally listened to opinions but in this case seems it was only alan's and keith's that mattered.
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02:34 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Everything i had to say to you was in the above post. Yet again we are on this subject, well im not wasting my time and other peoples time who had to read through all the arguing or what ever you want to call it.
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02:36 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Look above I changed the subject and you brought it back up again!!!
dgeneratio
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03:09 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
chris said:
dgen - it was never a case of either or. I have no idea whether a large scale cup works. It does in theory but putting it into practice is something else. It could be a disaster

I am willing to give it a try but don't let that stop you organising something if you and others want it.

Also there is no slur on your reputation if anyone doesn't play their game. It's only voluntary. As I said before anyone wanting to opt out can be accommodated but it is easier to have everyone and have dq's than wait for entries and then still have dq's

fair enough, anyways if it is your tournament whats popular i have no problems letting you run it as its your idea you know the ins and outs.

i do like my idea (even done tournament tree lol) but if others prefer yours then so be it
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03:15 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
Well there was only 2 people asking for bigger clans both in your clan...thought league runners normally listened to opinions but in this case seems it was only alan's and keith's that mattered.


Absolute joke of a comment, he has listened and replied to pretty much everybodys input, he is doing a great job already..

You should think over what you put before putting anything at all.
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03:21 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
theukspoon said:
ipotalot said:
Well there was only 2 people asking for bigger clans both in your clan...thought league runners normally listened to opinions but in this case seems it was only alan's and keith's that mattered.


Absolute joke of a comment, he has listened and replied to pretty much everybodys input, he is doing a great job already..

You should think over what you put before putting anything at all.


ONLY 2 PEOPLE WANTED IT PAGES AND PAGES OF PEOPLE AGAINST IT

Don't come on here and mouth off at me until you learn to read they were even against it themselves but because alan and keith wanted it they put it through.

I did change the subject away from this, so has james so why do the ones who have got their way bring it back up again?!
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03:27 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
This is getting out of hand......
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03:29 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Well if people would just stop telling me to drop it then bringing it back up again it would help.
ab_rfc
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03:30 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
No idea where hes getting the Alan wanted it, Alan never posted on the subject untill after it was decided to make it 16, glad its 16 tho, now we can poach from team angry.
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03:32 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Doesn't matter who your 16th player comes from alan will still be weakening someone elses team as will our 16th player.
MVP are happy anyway so drop the subject
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03:36 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
If you read all the posts you will see theres more than horse10000 that wanted the increase, plenty in other clans happy about it.

Now I'm not posting anymore on the subject, its getting a bit boring, well i think so but Lee might disagree with me lol

Edited at 01:40 Thu 05/01/12 (GMT)
zantetsukenz
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03:39 Thu 5 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Maybe with an increase to benifit bigger clans, some measures to protect smaller ones? e.g. can't sign players if it puts a clan under a certain number, limited amount of signings a clan can make unless they're low on numbers, etc.

Might help people who don't like the increase to know that the smaller clans are being protected
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