Surely you shouldnt be telling us any result until the panel has finished voting!

Boy we need some complicated rules here. If captains do not realise that it is common sense to advise players if they are subbed in or subbed out in a fixture but need it written down in the rules before they do it, I think we should start running a captains education course before you can captain a clan as if captains have that little common sense with out being told, what else do they not do because no one has told them to do it.

Result should stand and Craig will hopefully advise his players in future to stop it happening again.

well we both know that the vote doesnt like that anymore, ive changed everything, yet apparently im still the sheep

Im just trying to show im no sheep, however if he would prefer i left it alone i will take my vote back

The voting has changed, it looks nothing like what i have said.

no you don't have to take your vote back but surely the scoreline of votes should be secret until the big day?

i still have mixed feelings about this whole scenario both was in the wrong and that can't be changed

I've no interest in who voted when and what for, fact is your obviously voting without reading all the facts then letting yourself get talked round by whats all being said on here.

Read the facts, then make your vote and stick to it, you changed your vote because the sub was done just before they played, why didn't you know that fact before voting lol

Your obviously forgetting you wanted to change your vote against MVP after the decision was made lol

Edited at 14:48 Tue 27/12/11 (GMT)

i think everyone should just leave it now ! everyone got there own opinions on this so will never end........ there's pages of the same argument so its got nowhere lets just let the votes decide and put it to bed

Because it says 3 days ago! I cant pin point timing on that can i?!?

i was under the impression the sub was made whilst the game was in progress because everyone was banging on about tactical for no reason, i thought he had done the sub because yetti was losing.

exactly jon, my only regret is this will probably not stop no matter what the outcome is.

im personally not bothered what the outcome is.

exactly after the vote it be worse.

anyways about a month to go then i can relax

i like to think i have proven myself to be fair doing defaults , whether i like a team/player or not ( even tho i like everyone ) if i leave default staff, it has nothing to do which way the vote has gone, as i still don't think it should have gone to a poll. All that i am bothered about is everyone is treated fairly and the same, unfortunately i dont always believe that happens.
Maybe its time to get one member from each team involved in defaults, rather than multiple members from a team, at least then , no one can accuse defaults of being unfair or biased.

Well said Sarah.

should sarah be allowed to vote on something concerning craig? id say not.

I would have to agree there.

Ive played in craigs clan before, does that rule me out? all the default panelists are unbias, if you would like to make an accusation feel free though cannibals.

As for where i stand on this, this shouldnt have even been given enough consideration to make it into a poll, how can this decision which is supported 100% by the rules (unless we are doing another change ) have made it this far, should have been a straight simple no from yourself dgen.

i am quite happy for my vote to be discounted, i have said through this discussion, my reasons why it shouldnt have even gone to a poll, and whether it be shooters, or any other team my decision would have been the same. but as i said, i have no problems with my vote not counting.

Signed copies available by request lol

me 2 sarah i think your great and tho but if it was the other way round and it was jess involed i wouldnt vote on case that im obz gonna vote for jess soo yeaa good point

I'll take two, one for myself and one for my captain friend over at MVP, forgot his name though