i am sure that most captains would be happy to have a member of their team on defaults

it shows the current system dosnt work

the current system shows its breaching your own rules so i dont get it what message your sending out

by self addmission the system breaches league rules

how can you ask captains and teams to adhere to the rules you layout when you clearly dont follow them yourself

nope its because i think the system is fine as it is

league runners run the default panel so i believe they have earned the right to have a say

On snooker we post on our own clan predictions as well and not once has anyone argued or disagreed with the predictions made in 7 seasons of the clan league.

because me and seb post on our own clan default once people are judging the way the default panel is done.

so why say it in the rules that you cant

or more to the point discard all rules and make them up as you go

Sorry James but it looks like your the only person against this idea and the only one that thinks its fair the way it is, would you or anyone really accept me and keith doing MVP defaults ?, I don't think so.

Changing will cut out all biased/unbiased arguments.

Edited at 21:52 Sat 10/12/11 (GMT)

it is posted in the rules on pool that posting on own defaults is not allowed.

default debates will roll on and on as no matter what league do they will allways be a disagreement always someone saying you did that cause i beat u and u not like me or something stupid

defaults need to be done in privert and no one know who default panel is a annomous panal

i wouldn't mind to be honest but i don't feel comfortable having 10 or more doing defaults if i need more people i will post on league help required.

true so it won't happen again, fair? only reason i posted on the long_pot default as it was an easy call to make no points to us, full to the opponent.

maybe i shouldn't have and i apologise but not much point unlocking the default to reach the same conclusion.

surely its only fair that a member from all teams have a say on defaults ?

maybe next season, ive always said 19 members is far too many, even if captains signed up i wouldn't remove the current defaults team.

the only rule change needed this season is the one chris mentioned however it was inplemented anyway.

You've already said your stepping down for next season, hopefully you'll change your mind, thats when the change would take place if it did go ahead so maybe we're discussing it with the wrong person, we should be discussing this with theukspoon and bluenose1872.

yep i will be, bluenose is the man you will need to speak to, but was just saying for this season i want it to stay as it is.

pointless discussion trying to improve this situation

defaults are done in clear breach of league rules,, and that is acceptable ,,,, so everyone move on and forget it

its a clear message from dgen

its not so clear for captains to explain it to there players and then say to them these rules are for you when it suites

however they apply today or maybe tomorrow

but hey

dont slate me please craig i will go to the admins with this!

like i said ive done it once, and it won't happen again, whats point of unlocking a default to ask staff to look again when its going to be the same conclusion?

someone once told me, everyone makes mistakes so we have to learn from them, well i have

I agree with Dgen default staff is fine how it is

Yeh it remains as it is for now and it gets looked at for next season, too big a change to bring in now, just the Chris idea to get added for now.

glad we agree, with the discussion i thought you meant you wanted the captains thing now lol thats why i disagreed