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23:34 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
i actually think this could work think about it.

round 1 and QF - 5 v 5 2 weeks deadline
Semi and Final has 3 weeks deadline so 7 v 7 and 9 v 9 wouldn't do much damage

my only concern is it might raise defaults a touch but if both teams is active that can be avoided.


I don't think there is anyway that you will struggle to get a result in the 7 v 7 or 9 v 9 as they are semis and finals with 3 weeks to play.
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23:34 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
horse10000 said:
dgeneratio said:
well no one complained about it for 14 seasons about it being 5 v 5, my question to you is why now? people can take a break they have other fixtures to play so its not like they are missing out.


Cup has not been going 14 seasons it was introduced approx season 4 or 5. It has been discussed plenty regarding the 5 v 5 format.

It has devalued the competition as there has been a few clans that have chosen not to take it seriously due to its 5 v 5 nature. MVP being one of those clans, i am sure if you want to go back threads to its creation it was clearly documented then.

Comparisons of football teams play 11 v 11 for league, don't then play a 5 a side competition for the FA cup etc. have been used plenty.

The reason it was made a 5 v 5 was to make it different from the league format, something that not everyone agrees with. It was also done with an odd number to stop any drawn games and fixtures have always been played over a 1 week period thus a 5 v 5 was easier to complete in that time.

Now that this season league runners have finally listened and got organised and are doing cup from start with 2 weeks per fixture, the need for small sides is no longer there. (Praise to league runners for being organised this year)

I would love to see format changed to larger numbers to get more players playing in the competition and hopefully add some value to a competition which has struggled to get much recognition on here.

I have another suggestion to try and make everyone get there wish.

Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9

Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season, if they don't add anything we could then maybe look at changing the games played in cup format for the following season. Example currently 5 x 8us, 5 x 9us and 5 uk. Try something different like 3 x 8 Arc, 3 x 9 Arc, 3 x 8us, 3 x 9us, 3 x 8uk, 2 x straight or 1 off each of the above and add extra players again etc etc.

This is just a quick example, my main point is that the cup tournament on here has little or no credibility currently so if we can do anything to improve it and make it something that clans enjoy and want to play in, it has to help the whole clan league.


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23:41 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Still massively in favour of 8 v 8 then 12 v 12 in the final with any drawn games having the last 2 players playing a further frame of each.
Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9

If that is a means to trial bigger numbers to get somewhere with this then it's better than nothing.
The arcade games are a total joke without any merit and shouldn't be anywhere near FCL.
As said previously the cup should have its own magic created by people being drawn against anyone and it being the best team in a one off game not by messing round with the actually game.
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23:43 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
you can get draws in those though, it has to be odd

im alright with 9 v 9 but 12 v 12 was always too high i think. asked the runners to do a recast and put horses suggestion to them.
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00:19 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Has someone told him yet that I didn't actually vote on any of this? He mentioned it twice...
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01:18 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
right after discussing with league runners horse's idea has actually made us change our minds.

the 3 weeks deadline for semi and final won't do much damage to the games (or shouldn't do), 12 v 12 is too high sorry lee but we agreed it will be 5 v 5 until semis, 7 v 7 in semis then 9 v 9 final.

it shouldn't affect the golden cue much.

about the format we are not really keen on adding the arcade games so will stay as it is.

Only thing to discuss now is my teamlist idea then thats concrete, no more changes as i was told new clans find it hard to take in all these changes.

anyway up to you if you want my teamlist idea, ill need to know before Monday.

thanks
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01:20 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
thank god no arcade games.....if that useless thing was introduced id lose all interest in clan stuff
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01:25 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
id propose it for FBL cup but never FCL
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01:34 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah me too haha

I was never going to agree with others if arcade had a vote to go in haha
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02:00 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
you can get draws in those though, it has to be odd

im alright with 9 v 9 but 12 v 12 was always too high i think. asked the runners to do a recast and put horses suggestion to them.


Did say all you have to do is if a game ends up a draw the 2 in the last game should add a further 1 of each onto their 15 to decide it. No extra fixtures needed then.
Arcade can get out of FBL too lol
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02:03 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Team list idea should be implemented if it helps 1 or 2 more games get played it has to be a good thing
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02:04 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Arcade games was an example of how to change format, i didn't want them in either.

Good news about cup as well
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02:40 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah good news think the semis and final will have a lot more buzz from the clans involved in them now
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02:47 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah good result all round though i think less heated in here too which is always good
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02:50 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Gotta keep you league runners on your toes...that's why you get the big bucks
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02:55 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
true jay, i actually feel a lot happier tonight than ive done all week
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03:05 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Good haha big bucks? we get paid James where is my cheque? haha
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03:07 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
you get a penny bubbly.

in fact -

nick pays admin
admin pays mods
mods pay fcl staff
members get peanuts

*jokes*
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03:10 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Lmao rather funny that haha
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03:10 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
He's ripping you off jay!
Techno and dextr get a six figure salary and dgen turned up in a porsche today!
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