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22:27 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
its a discussion why does it need to be about you, were does it mention your post,
what it says is that you dont need 8x8 there is enough games for all players to play in, why have even more matches to be played
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what it says is that you dont need 8x8 there is enough games for all players to play in, why have even more matches to be played
clan singles
cup
fbl
fcl
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22:28 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Don't see how that will lower defaults at all or what is wrong with the current system.
You can't force a player to play who doesn't want to and you have double the players needed for each fixture who can get subbed in and out of any game....numbers should never be a problem
dgeneratio said:
New thing im looking to add what will lower defaults even more.
Any team changes what happens when fixture has started won't be valid until the end of that fixture set meaning when fixture has started if you post someone Out they can still play until end of that fixture set.
Example:
say you had...
eemad vs dgeneratio
ab_rfc vs whocares8x8
horse10000 vs ccfc1927
the_diamond vs vendetta
dvz vs rapid_pot
and then ab_rfc posted dvz out of his teamlist dvz would still be eligible until end of that fixture set.
discuss
Any team changes what happens when fixture has started won't be valid until the end of that fixture set meaning when fixture has started if you post someone Out they can still play until end of that fixture set.
Example:
say you had...
eemad vs dgeneratio
ab_rfc vs whocares8x8
horse10000 vs ccfc1927
the_diamond vs vendetta
dvz vs rapid_pot
and then ab_rfc posted dvz out of his teamlist dvz would still be eligible until end of that fixture set.
discuss
Don't see how that will lower defaults at all or what is wrong with the current system.
You can't force a player to play who doesn't want to and you have double the players needed for each fixture who can get subbed in and out of any game....numbers should never be a problem
22:28 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
15 players of any standard have enough games to play without adding more
22:29 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Don't see how that will lower defaults at all or what is wrong with the current system.
You can't force a player to play who doesn't want to and you have double the players needed for each fixture who can get subbed in and out of any game....numbers should never be a problem
never force anyone to do anything, they would still be in the teamlist UNTIL end of the fixture then get taken out, like Seb said it can help with rash deactivations, it would be there just in case the captains needed them.
ipotalot said:
dgeneratio said:
New thing im looking to add what will lower defaults even more.
Any team changes what happens when fixture has started won't be valid until the end of that fixture set meaning when fixture has started if you post someone Out they can still play until end of that fixture set.
Example:
say you had...
eemad vs dgeneratio
ab_rfc vs whocares8x8
horse10000 vs ccfc1927
the_diamond vs vendetta
dvz vs rapid_pot
and then ab_rfc posted dvz out of his teamlist dvz would still be eligible until end of that fixture set.
discuss
Any team changes what happens when fixture has started won't be valid until the end of that fixture set meaning when fixture has started if you post someone Out they can still play until end of that fixture set.
Example:
say you had...
eemad vs dgeneratio
ab_rfc vs whocares8x8
horse10000 vs ccfc1927
the_diamond vs vendetta
dvz vs rapid_pot
and then ab_rfc posted dvz out of his teamlist dvz would still be eligible until end of that fixture set.
discuss
Don't see how that will lower defaults at all or what is wrong with the current system.
You can't force a player to play who doesn't want to and you have double the players needed for each fixture who can get subbed in and out of any game....numbers should never be a problem
never force anyone to do anything, they would still be in the teamlist UNTIL end of the fixture then get taken out, like Seb said it can help with rash deactivations, it would be there just in case the captains needed them.
22:30 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
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22:32 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Lol okay we've gone from....
why sign players if they aren't up to standard? to
1 hour a fortnight is hardly a drain and if people didn't want to play in the competitions they wouldn't join clans.
why sign players if they aren't up to standard? to
doubted2 said:
15 players of any standard have enough games to play without adding more
1 hour a fortnight is hardly a drain and if people didn't want to play in the competitions they wouldn't join clans.
22:35 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
ipotalot just cant help his self he thinks he runs funkypool!
just let it go
just let it go
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22:40 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
You have 15 in a squad so that equates to 1 game each of FCL and FBL .....1 and a half hours worth each a fortnight.
I think most people want to play in the cup too and all i'm asking is that it be put to captains if they want 5 v 5 fair enough if they prefer 8 v 8 like I do even better.
You agreed with that in your first post on the subject and gave shooters vote....fair enough
doubted2 said:
its a discussion why does it need to be about you, were does it mention your post,
what it says is that you dont need 8x8 there is enough games for all players to play in, why have even more matches to be played
clan singles
cup
fbl
fcl
what it says is that you dont need 8x8 there is enough games for all players to play in, why have even more matches to be played
clan singles
cup
fbl
fcl
You have 15 in a squad so that equates to 1 game each of FCL and FBL .....1 and a half hours worth each a fortnight.
I think most people want to play in the cup too and all i'm asking is that it be put to captains if they want 5 v 5 fair enough if they prefer 8 v 8 like I do even better.
You agreed with that in your first post on the subject and gave shooters vote....fair enough
22:43 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
it will only be changed if the league runners change their mind before Monday (meaning Sunday) as thats when the league starts (by start i mean handing teamlists in) so for now please talk about something else.
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22:44 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Totally against the forum rules that have just been posted!!
Nothing personal in any of mine we are discussing league matters on a league discussion thread!!
roberts said:
ipotalot just cant help his self he thinks he runs funkypool!
just let it go
just let it go
Totally against the forum rules that have just been posted!!
Nothing personal in any of mine we are discussing league matters on a league discussion thread!!
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22:53 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
As has been said before this is no longer a league that listens to its members otherwise you would have no objections to deciding something like this fairly and giving captains a vote, might well go against your personal opinion then.
I'm done wasting my time reasoning.
dgeneratio said:
it will only be changed if the league runners change their mind before Monday (meaning Sunday) as thats when the league starts (by start i mean handing teamlists in) so for now please talk about something else.
As has been said before this is no longer a league that listens to its members otherwise you would have no objections to deciding something like this fairly and giving captains a vote, might well go against your personal opinion then.
I'm done wasting my time reasoning.
22:54 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
like i said if dex and techno change their minds then ill do it but otherwise it stays as 5 v 5
and thanks.
and thanks.
23:01 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
After this being explained to me I like it, basically all it means is if a player is leaving or being removed they remain in the clan untill the end of the fixture set, this allows the captain to replace the player and also still have the leaving player available untill deadline.
As for the Cup, I don't like 5 v 5 but the decisions been made to keep it 5 v 5 so lets move on and look forward to the new season, maybe this is something that could be looked at again for future seasons.
dgeneratio said:
New thing im looking to add what will lower defaults even more.
Any team changes what happens when fixture has started won't be valid until the end of that fixture set meaning when fixture has started if you post someone Out they can still play until end of that fixture set.
Example:
say you had...
eemad vs dgeneratio
ab_rfc vs whocares8x8
horse10000 vs ccfc1927
the_diamond vs vendetta
dvz vs rapid_pot
and then ab_rfc posted dvz out of his teamlist dvz would still be eligible until end of that fixture set.
discuss
Any team changes what happens when fixture has started won't be valid until the end of that fixture set meaning when fixture has started if you post someone Out they can still play until end of that fixture set.
Example:
say you had...
eemad vs dgeneratio
ab_rfc vs whocares8x8
horse10000 vs ccfc1927
the_diamond vs vendetta
dvz vs rapid_pot
and then ab_rfc posted dvz out of his teamlist dvz would still be eligible until end of that fixture set.
discuss
After this being explained to me I like it, basically all it means is if a player is leaving or being removed they remain in the clan untill the end of the fixture set, this allows the captain to replace the player and also still have the leaving player available untill deadline.
As for the Cup, I don't like 5 v 5 but the decisions been made to keep it 5 v 5 so lets move on and look forward to the new season, maybe this is something that could be looked at again for future seasons.
23:04 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
thats correct Ab, need more opinions though
i won't be here next season so can feel free to bring it up for discussion then if you like
next season techno and bluenose1872 has agreed to take over from me
i won't be here next season so can feel free to bring it up for discussion then if you like
next season techno and bluenose1872 has agreed to take over from me
23:05 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
ipotalot is entitled to his opinion and if you don't like it please feel free to come up with a better suggestion instead of posting digs.
roberts said:
ipotalot just cant help his self he thinks he runs funkypool!
just let it go
just let it go
ipotalot is entitled to his opinion and if you don't like it please feel free to come up with a better suggestion instead of posting digs.
23:08 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Cup has not been going 14 seasons it was introduced approx season 4 or 5. It has been discussed plenty regarding the 5 v 5 format.
It has devalued the competition as there has been a few clans that have chosen not to take it seriously due to its 5 v 5 nature. MVP being one of those clans, i am sure if you want to go back threads to its creation it was clearly documented then.
Comparisons of football teams play 11 v 11 for league, don't then play a 5 a side competition for the FA cup etc. have been used plenty.
The reason it was made a 5 v 5 was to make it different from the league format, something that not everyone agrees with. It was also done with an odd number to stop any drawn games and fixtures have always been played over a 1 week period thus a 5 v 5 was easier to complete in that time.
Now that this season league runners have finally listened and got organised and are doing cup from start with 2 weeks per fixture, the need for small sides is no longer there. (Praise to league runners for being organised this year)
I would love to see format changed to larger numbers to get more players playing in the competition and hopefully add some value to a competition which has struggled to get much recognition on here.
I have another suggestion to try and make everyone get there wish.
Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9
Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season, if they don't add anything we could then maybe look at changing the games played in cup format for the following season. Example currently 5 x 8us, 5 x 9us and 5 uk. Try something different like 3 x 8 Arc, 3 x 9 Arc, 3 x 8us, 3 x 9us, 3 x 8uk, 2 x straight or 1 off each of the above and add extra players again etc etc.
This is just a quick example, my main point is that the cup tournament on here has little or no credibility currently so if we can do anything to improve it and make it something that clans enjoy and want to play in, it has to help the whole clan league.
dgeneratio said:
well no one complained about it for 14 seasons about it being 5 v 5, my question to you is why now? people can take a break they have other fixtures to play so its not like they are missing out.
Cup has not been going 14 seasons it was introduced approx season 4 or 5. It has been discussed plenty regarding the 5 v 5 format.
It has devalued the competition as there has been a few clans that have chosen not to take it seriously due to its 5 v 5 nature. MVP being one of those clans, i am sure if you want to go back threads to its creation it was clearly documented then.
Comparisons of football teams play 11 v 11 for league, don't then play a 5 a side competition for the FA cup etc. have been used plenty.
The reason it was made a 5 v 5 was to make it different from the league format, something that not everyone agrees with. It was also done with an odd number to stop any drawn games and fixtures have always been played over a 1 week period thus a 5 v 5 was easier to complete in that time.
Now that this season league runners have finally listened and got organised and are doing cup from start with 2 weeks per fixture, the need for small sides is no longer there. (Praise to league runners for being organised this year)
I would love to see format changed to larger numbers to get more players playing in the competition and hopefully add some value to a competition which has struggled to get much recognition on here.
I have another suggestion to try and make everyone get there wish.
Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9
Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season, if they don't add anything we could then maybe look at changing the games played in cup format for the following season. Example currently 5 x 8us, 5 x 9us and 5 uk. Try something different like 3 x 8 Arc, 3 x 9 Arc, 3 x 8us, 3 x 9us, 3 x 8uk, 2 x straight or 1 off each of the above and add extra players again etc etc.
This is just a quick example, my main point is that the cup tournament on here has little or no credibility currently so if we can do anything to improve it and make it something that clans enjoy and want to play in, it has to help the whole clan league.
23:15 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
thankyou horse a well balanced explanation
i can ask the runners to take a relook see what they think? thats what i like to see some positive posting as its actually encouraged me to ask the runners if they want it changed or not, all i ask if i do this is not go off on a riot like before, i actually have enough respect for the league to do this so if the league runners still want 5 v 5 then all i ask is you respect our wishes
one of best ideas i have heard so far.
Edited at 20:20 Thu 27/10/11 (BST)
i can ask the runners to take a relook see what they think? thats what i like to see some positive posting as its actually encouraged me to ask the runners if they want it changed or not, all i ask if i do this is not go off on a riot like before, i actually have enough respect for the league to do this so if the league runners still want 5 v 5 then all i ask is you respect our wishes
horse10000 said:
I have another suggestion to try and make everyone get there wish.
Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9
Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season, if they don't add anything we could then maybe look at changing the games played in cup format for the following season. Example currently 5 x 8us, 5 x 9us and 5 uk. Try something different like 3 x 8 Arc, 3 x 9 Arc, 3 x 8us, 3 x 9us, 3 x 8uk, 2 x straight or 1 off each of the above and add extra players again etc etc.
Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9
Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season, if they don't add anything we could then maybe look at changing the games played in cup format for the following season. Example currently 5 x 8us, 5 x 9us and 5 uk. Try something different like 3 x 8 Arc, 3 x 9 Arc, 3 x 8us, 3 x 9us, 3 x 8uk, 2 x straight or 1 off each of the above and add extra players again etc etc.
one of best ideas i have heard so far.
Edited at 20:20 Thu 27/10/11 (BST)
23:26 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9
Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season
Sounds good and definately worth a try/
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9
Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season
Sounds good and definately worth a try/
23:27 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Thanks mate
dgeneratio said:
thankyou horse a well balanced explanation
i can ask the runners to take a relook see what they think? thats what i like to see some positive posting as its actually encouraged me to ask the runners if they want it changed or not, all i ask if i do this is not go off on a riot like before, i actually have enough respect for the league to do this so if the league runners still want 5 v 5 then all i ask is you respect our wishes
one of best ideas i have heard so far.
Edited at 20:20 Thu 27/10/11 (BST)
i can ask the runners to take a relook see what they think? thats what i like to see some positive posting as its actually encouraged me to ask the runners if they want it changed or not, all i ask if i do this is not go off on a riot like before, i actually have enough respect for the league to do this so if the league runners still want 5 v 5 then all i ask is you respect our wishes
horse10000 said:
I have another suggestion to try and make everyone get there wish.
Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9
Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season, if they don't add anything we could then maybe look at changing the games played in cup format for the following season. Example currently 5 x 8us, 5 x 9us and 5 uk. Try something different like 3 x 8 Arc, 3 x 9 Arc, 3 x 8us, 3 x 9us, 3 x 8uk, 2 x straight or 1 off each of the above and add extra players again etc etc.
Round 1 and quarter finals = 5 v 5
Semi Finals = 7 v 7
Final = 9 v 9
Yes only 4 teams would get benefits of extra games etc this season, but if semis and finals proved more exciting, then we could look at adding larger fixtures throughout the cup format next season, if they don't add anything we could then maybe look at changing the games played in cup format for the following season. Example currently 5 x 8us, 5 x 9us and 5 uk. Try something different like 3 x 8 Arc, 3 x 9 Arc, 3 x 8us, 3 x 9us, 3 x 8uk, 2 x straight or 1 off each of the above and add extra players again etc etc.
one of best ideas i have heard so far.
Edited at 20:20 Thu 27/10/11 (BST)
Thanks mate
23:28 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
i actually think this could work think about it.
round 1 and QF - 5 v 5 2 weeks deadline
Semi and Final has 3 weeks deadline so 7 v 7 and 9 v 9 wouldn't do much damage
my only concern is it might raise defaults a touch but if both teams is active that can be avoided.
round 1 and QF - 5 v 5 2 weeks deadline
Semi and Final has 3 weeks deadline so 7 v 7 and 9 v 9 wouldn't do much damage
my only concern is it might raise defaults a touch but if both teams is active that can be avoided.
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