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doubted2
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23:12 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgen

wrong KEVROSS
doubted2
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23:18 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
also this 2 month rule being a trial shud this not be put to all clan captains as we are members of this league

and have a say, i believe it would only reinforce whay this league is at the forefront and the best league

to be honest im more bothered with ppl having 2 accounts playing for 2 teams, i asked admin to look into this last season and have again asked for a certain player who slipped it out, who she was , admin have never answered my request , this cost us div 2 title

i guess theres nothing tht can be done, but it stinks that ppl cheat, and a rumour of another.
_k1rk_
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23:20 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
If i was yous i continue to discuss it tbh who cares if ur banned from a league lol it means nothing people.

However to simply discuss without threats etc would have been easy enough but at the end of the day it's up to league runners. Threatening players is just a show of weak leadership from that person.
doubted2
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23:31 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
my points are about discussion kirk and making the league better,, banned users comming back,, theres no such thing

your account is canncelled , in my book your a new player, so there can only be one rule

you cant really say i used to be someone wether you are or not, your account is new
_k1rk_
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23:38 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
I know your trying to discuss it amongst others, but people keep getting threats because they wont drop it.

What needs to be realised at the end of the day is it's the league runners choice so i wouldnt argue to much, just put your case forward and see what happens. Maybe they will change it next season.

I will say imo a banned user who has come back should be given a 1 month wait as you cant distinguish between a banned user or a person who has deactivated unless you have a moderator feeding you information and even then they are sometimes wrong.
zantetsukenz
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23:41 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
doubted2 said:
my points are about discussion kirk and making the league better,, banned users comming back,, theres no such thing

your account is canncelled , in my book your a new player, so there can only be one rule

you cant really say i used to be someone wether you are or not, your account is new


I agree, why should they get any preferential treatment?

the length of time they spent banned from the site is cause by their own doing, when they return, it is on a new name, so should be treated like other users returning on a new name
doubted2
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23:43 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
on another point,

clans get a 5 point bonus for completing the fixtures

somthing to ponder
what happens when a clan througth no fault of there own, dont complete a fixture, id hate to think they are penalised. can a clan can win a title based on this. surley this could encourage professional tactical defaults.
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23:43 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
_k1rk_ said:
unless you have a moderator feeding you information and even then they are sometimes wrong.


And they shouldn't give any league runners information gained by the site as it breaches the site rules doesn't it?
doubted2
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23:44 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
thankyou zante

Edited at 21:46 Sun 14/11/10 (GMT)
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23:47 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
doubted2 said:
also this 2 month rule being a trial shud this not be put to all clan captains as we are members of this league

and have a say, i believe it would only reinforce whay this league is at the forefront and the best league

to be honest im more bothered with ppl having 2 accounts playing for 2 teams, i asked admin to look into this last season and have again asked for a certain player who slipped it out, who she was , admin have never answered my request , this cost us div 2 title

i guess theres nothing tht can be done, but it stinks that ppl cheat, and a rumour of another.


What do u mean 2 month rule trial? that was last season all we have done is now tweak the rule to what people told us we were goin wrong t start of last season.

Tbh the amount of times i had people moan an msg me going can this person play when we had the flat 2 month waiting time was unbelievable tbh so after that i realised i ws being to harsh so we have relaxed it slightly which tbh i would of thought everyone would have welcomed.

I personally am not fussed but thats because i have a set of people in my clan who are reliable an i rarely need to take on any players during a season if im honest.

I do however think once season has started an someone has a drop out an u then sign someone who is eligible in the 1 month limit u will be grateful we have relaxed the rule.

End of discussion now rule will be in force for next season starting on sunday 21st november.
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23:50 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
zantetsukenz said:
_k1rk_ said:
unless you have a moderator feeding you information and even then they are sometimes wrong.


And they shouldn't give any league runners information gained by the site as it breaches the site rules doesn't it?


No more posts on this please this is not to be discussed here or anywhere imo.
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23:51 Sun 14 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
doubted2 said:
on another point,

clans get a 5 point bonus for completing the fixtures

somthing to ponder
what happens when a clan througth no fault of there own, dont complete a fixture, id hate to think they are penalised. can a clan can win a title based on this. surley this could encourage professional tactical defaults.


This is to prevent defaults craig an to get people to push much harder to get a game played plus subs
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11:30 Mon 15 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
I thought the point of a discussion thread was to get views from the players involved to help the league in someway but when we give our opinions and lets be honest it seems to be a majority opinion many people get "warned" to stay off the topic by league staff etc.

Well not me I am sorry, I am a person who believes I should stand for what I believe and I believe banned users should not get preferential treatment.

You have all seen my views and understand my reasons and by the "2month rule" I think everyone is referring to the quarantine period as it used to be 2 months but I now believe it is 1 month.

So yet again I don't believe it is fair on players who abide by the rules that banned users get preferential treatment, in my eyes any new account entering the league should be suspect to a quarantine period be it banned user deactivated user league staff or any other, 1 rule should apply for everyone.
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13:05 Mon 15 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
mich said:
I thought the point of a discussion thread was to get views from the players involved to help the league in someway but when we give our opinions and lets be honest it seems to be a majority opinion many people get "warned" to stay off the topic by league staff etc.

Well not me I am sorry, I am a person who believes I should stand for what I believe and I believe banned users should not get preferential treatment.

You have all seen my views and understand my reasons and by the "2month rule" I think everyone is referring to the quarantine period as it used to be 2 months but I now believe it is 1 month.

So yet again I don't believe it is fair on players who abide by the rules that banned users get preferential treatment, in my eyes any new account entering the league should be suspect to a quarantine period be it banned user deactivated user league staff or any other, 1 rule should apply for everyone.


that what iv being saying all along mich as i said to them let the captains and vice captains vote on it that the ones that what the 2 month rule in
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13:15 Mon 15 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
Same Rick, and now there is unrest within my clan over the issue and as all members involved wont back down (which I don't blame them as I would always stand for something I believe) I just think it is time the league staff listened to what we thought was best for the league and try this out.
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13:29 Mon 15 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
janmb

if you dont like people comments in League Discussion thread
dont look at it
cause that what there for teams to think of new ideas to help the league make new rules to help clan teams
as all the old teams would tell you we have new clans in every season they come and go like that all the time

if you want to send people rude message because they what to fight for a rule they believe in that out of order

it simple tell people not to

stop Deactivate their names

stop deleting their names

and getting banned or booted
dgeneratio
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13:47 Mon 15 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
im actually 50/50 in this.

banned users shouldnt get any preferred treatment BUT they served their banned time so in theory its a new player even though the banning in that persons mind will never go away.

its only 1 month BEFORE season begins, during the season it is 2 months like before.
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13:51 Mon 15 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sooo... Why should banned users not have to do the quarantine if it is a clean slate?
dgeneratio
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13:52 Mon 15 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
i thought they did have to do the quarantine like everyone else?
hairwascurly
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13:53 Mon 15 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
Why not just leave it to the league staff and not argue? Once season starts you'll all forget about it anyway
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