Can I throw something up for discussion completely out of left field?

How about trialling a 'loan' system during the season like there is in football for example? Looking at the team lists there are some with as many as 14 and others with as few as 11. I think it is fair to say that finding players who will be reliable and interested (regardless of ability) is not always easy within the limited funky player base.

There would need to be strict rules in place - eg 1) players could not be loaned between teams in the same division, 2) players loaned could not have already played a fixture for their registered team during a fixture period before being loaned and could not play for their registered team in that period after being loaned, 3) limits on the number of loans used during a season, 4) the maximum team list could not be exceeded by bringing in a loan player (to make that fair for all maybe the maximum figure could be raised to 15?).

Would probably need a couple more rules just to firm it up but no point if the idea is going to be completely dismissed.

I can fully understand why people would be anti this being introduced but there would be a chance that even more games could be completed rather than go to default, plus give more opportunities for some players to play.

Anyway - like I said - just an idea.

Interesting idea there chris, i like it

Right as I now feel singled out by a rant in offline message sent by a league runner! I might as well post here as I feel if it is a reply to a discussion surely it should be posted on here! Not posted privately like a dig at me!

Reasons I don't agree with banned users being allowed back in on brand new accounts surely this would mean that it would become more possible to lie about being certain banned users to get into a clan rather than admitting to being a new player?

I would just like to quiery why the reply I received was not posted on here by the clan runner in question rather than the reply I received?

Like in CPL

bit of a copy of CPL so im guessing it wouldnt work

i dont like the idea, you will need 14 players during a season, why loan players just sign new ones

emma-jane i have a really big problem with banned users still running teams and being spoken about, its clearly in the rules. that banned users cant be discussed it appears a blind eye is turned by admin and mods, it shouldnt be encouraged , when your banned your banned for a reason.

lets remember one thing THEY are the ones responsible for being banned no one else.
ive been banned i didnt come to clans saying i was inocent jeeez i did wrong its a shame others cant accept it.

they let there clans down, why encourage them back mmm dosnt seem right to me

about banned users

if a player as been banned he should wait like a new player the 2 month rules
the same goes for a player that as deleted his or her name
why should clans and leagues encourage these people
it all comes down to their self doing
most of the time a player delets his or her name cause they give out to much crap to other members on here
also they like to be a newbie just to wind the top rank players up
this not right 2 months rule should stand

just like to point out one of my players had to wait for to months before he could play a game last season and there was no leway coming from the league runners now the league runners want to change this because there have got members that cant play from the start

Edited at 09:23 Sun 14/11/10 (GMT)

i Think this is an historic moment. but...

I have been saying this about banned users since the beginning seems the league runners and banned users themselves must be the only people against it.

message from clan league staff:

The rule discussion related to returning banned users is being turned entirely upside down.

We are not talking about banned users circumventing their ban. We are talking about users who have served their penalty and been allowed back by funkypool staff! In short, people who are deemed fit to return to this site, by Nick himself or the other admins.

As has been pointed out earlier - league rules deal with serving league needs ONLY! Funkypool rules and their enforcement are not a league concern! League rules are there to avoid problems for the league - not to penalize anyone!

Answer me this:

What place do we as league runners have to second guess funkypool staff and artificially add to the already served penalty banned players have received by funkypool admins?

The league has no basis for an opinion on why a user gets banned or not - all we have to relate to is that the period players get banned for probably is well deserved - no more, no less. We have no basis for an opinion on extending such bannings and in doing so saying that the funkypool admins are wrong in their decisions.

So - please respect that funkypool rules are enforced by funkypool staff - respect their decisions and leave league runners out of that discussion.

Edited at 13:10 Sun 14/11/10 (GMT)

As for those who have concerns about banned users being discussed - that is not the case. Nowhere in these discussions have I seen anyone mention any banned user at all. We are talking about general league rules here, not any users in specific, banned or otherwise.

So a player who has deactivated should have a different penalty against them as someone who has been banned?

Surely they have both choosen to lose an accepted name by the league therefore surely should be given the same penalty?

I do not know anyone up to this date who has been banned or punished for 'no reason'

I think it's an incorrect view that the league should be showing that deactivating an account is punished more than a banned user?

just like to point out one of my players had to wait for to months before he could play a game last season and there was no leway coming from the league runners now the league runners want to change this because there have got members that cant play from the start

i like to know with you lot still not come out with it yet
what is the new rule on this

1 month or 2 months

i think it should be 2 months all round as my team was hit by this rules last season

that is players fault for keep changing there names not us

As ive stated before rick last seasons new rule regarding new players was a trial an after a lot of discussion an grief from people last season saying 2 months was too long for people to have to wait we have tweaked it in hope it would help clans an ive already also stated liam_scfc is goin to be waiting his 2 months to prove ive not done this to benefit me or my clan.

My last post on this subject.

Quarantine rules, like all other league rules, are not a punishment to anyone. The rule is there because it is necessary for the league to function - not because any given player "deserves" punishment.

In terms of what is a problem or not for the league, it makes no sense what so ever trying to compare deactivations with bannings.

Deactivations and returning immediately on a new account name happened ALL THE TIME, being a huge problem for the league.

Bannings are fortunately a lot more rare, even more so when looking at only the players who return after being allowed back. They have also already been out of business for at least 1 month or more when allowed back on the site, so they are very much not a problem for the league - hence no need for a quarantine either.

For the last time - stop comparing birds and fish. It is not unfair that birds can fly and have troubles breathing under water and vice versa.

1 month before season, 2 months when season begins, im not 100% sure but we will need potty to confirm.

1.12 Player account requirements
Players joining the league between seasons must have accounts that are at least 1 month old by the time the season starts. Players joining the league in the middle of a season must have accounts at least 2 months old. League hosts may use discretion and make exceptions to this as they see fit.

So which part do peoplenot understand?

so you can still change it to suit people the league like or not
the rule stand for every one
it should not fair on others that way

there should be no exceptions or discretion

that the whole idea of making rules

Guess this is my last post on here as iv been as good as warned by league staff to stay off it. So I guess discussion is not as welcome as I thought!

This is nothing against Steph as she didn't make the statement!

Just seems pointless to have a discussion thread if your told to shut up when you do discuss!

hear hear i just got told the same emma waste of time having thread on discussion on here cause there never mean nothing
what ever people surgest about rules they just doing it between there self so this the last time i will be saying anything about rules on here