Well this has come up before but I couldn't see it in the last 8 or so pages of game queries.

I don't have time to play as much as I used to. When I do play, I don't think about rank, well not in the conventional sense. I like to play people of an equal or higher standard. Thats not unreasonable.

Some people will say 'everyone play everyone' and thats fine if they wish to do so, I don't. I'm not alone.

today I set-up 6 pro games, all of which were joined by adepts/intermediates and a novice.

I'm not going to enter into a 6 minute long conversation which ends in abuse, because I don't want to play them. I have only 5 minutes a lot of the time to get a quick game in!

I want a drop down menu when you create the game:
novice
intermediates
adepts
pro's & virtuosos

All with neat little tick box's so I can tick the one's I'd like to be able to join.

Another great facility, mentioned veery recenly was something like this

{magicblack's game}
owner: magicblack (975.62)

These additions I feel would be a great addition to the site.

Spinner, I'll save you breath, I don't care about the results of your suppposed survey. Everytime I've come on the last fewe days I've had to create between 3 and 6 games before the appropriate people joined. Theres no arguing with that. You may ask aarond who joined my 6th game today if you don't believe me

Edit: while writing this post, I forgot I was still logged into my 'pro game'

I scrolled up to see, no lies, 6 under pro people join and leave the game.

So please, let's discuss the benefits/disadvantages of this idea, not the reasoning behind it. You simply can't argue with those figures so save your breath/key's!

Edited at 13:58 Tue 16/01/07 (GMT)

Fantastic ideas magic!

Sometimes i have a similar problem

I think spinner was just lucky

But yes, both very good and helpful ideas!

Mistype with the rank though, more like 675.62

Yes great ideas. The reason i would like to see this introduced is because:-

A) You can get a decent amount of rank from someone of about the same ability

B) The standard of the games will be higher.

About time a mod moaned about this! And i agree spinner should have tape put on his mouth for this one!

Great idea magic! I'm in the same situation as you, i don't get long and when you create a game for a certain rank you should be able to play, not have to argue with some silly fool who claims they will leave if they play them just once!


I would love to see this in the next update!


Edited at 17:21 Tue 16/01/07 (GMT)

Thanks guys, appreciate the support. Anyone else agree/disagree/other?!

Agreed, but...

a (794) player vs a (703) player.

The 794 player wouldn't want to play them for rank since they wouldn't gain as much.

But i still reckon it would cut down the amount of intermediates playin pros, adepts playin novices and so on.

Thanks Mcquiston and maybe your right.
Could be
>400
>500
>600
>700
>750
>800
>850

By default all boxes are ticked and you untick those you don't want joining. Possibly more complication than it's worth though!

Or maybe just typing in the rank you want to play for example:

mr_mcquistons game:
{760} to { 800 }
then you would have your rank tick boxes etc here.

<double post>

Edited at 17:50 Tue 16/01/07 (GMT)

I personally think that would be a little too specific and it would become really difficult to get a game.

So i got "lucky" for 1000 games?!?!?!

Facts are facts guys..

But remember the overall premise of the whole game, as cited by Nick and as happens at the end of every single discussion on this subject leading right back to pool sharks.

Everyone should play everyone.. whats next on the list? a tick box for race?

As i suggested on the other thread, if the rank of an opponent affects players so much, just hide all ranks untill after the games, that way the problem is completely eliminated.

Here's the great question no-one has been able to answer - if the opponents rank matters so much, why not JOIN a game with a player of the appropriate rank?

Not hard, everyones stats are there for all to see..

Sorry spinner but i don't believe your facts.

I still think magicblack is right in having this...

I want a drop down menu when you create the game:
novice
intermediates
adepts
pro's & virtuosos

I totally agree, which is why i have suggested many times that all games should be ranked, or that we move to having win percentage rather than rank displayed, since as we all know a persons rank is a very poor indication of thier actual abilty.

Well if you dont believe me, why not ask some of the admin who sat in and watched me?

As a compromise, how about having these options, but only for friendlies, that way they wont interfere with the integrity of the ranking system..

That's ridiculous. Percentage is no indication. I can play newbies all day and have a 90% win percentage. Rank takes ABILITY into account.
Spinner sometimes I wonder about you!

No,I want to play ranked, otherwise you get lines like 'im playin crap, that's why im playin friendlies'

+ you get people leaving mid-way

What harm could possibly come of this?!

I gave my facts to spinner. Frankly I don't bvelieve a word of your survey, It's inconcievable. I had soo many people join a pro game and its a daily occurence.

As for checking rank, that invlolves flicking to the homepage, keing the name in, flicking back and:

joey's game no longer exists

So the facts of a few minutes are more reliable than months of work.. Hmmm..

As i said in the other thread, sure, people under the specified rank joined, but they almost all left right away when you talked POLITELY to them.

One of the biggest problems is if you put "ONLY" in the game name, this seems like a magnet to the "nasty people".

But anyways, facts are facts, not made up as Pool_life for one can attest. (i will get you that rank back m8!)

Right - Nick has spent a long time devising the ranking system so that everyone playing everyone is fair and works.

Thats why pro lose hardly anyting to newbies etc, its all been thought about a long time ago.

And as for the game dissapearing while you check rank, i have to say thats a new one on me!

You said "Some people will say 'everyone play everyone' and thats fine if they wish to do so, I don't. "

So how can they play everyone if some people dont want to play them....

Tournies! Also friendlies! Surley everyone should have the choice to play who they want! Or is this a communist site!

As for your ''research'' into this, it's flawed as we know it. I'm not gonna talk about this again as i think this is a good idea, i think maybe you should stop banging on about flawed research.

Unlucky for them. I don't care about gaining rank. I don't want to play better players to win more rank.
I want a challenge. I want a decent game.

And as for the game dissapearing while you check rank, i have to say thats a new one on me!

By the time you've checked their profile somebody else has joined-simple.

One of the biggest problems is if you put "ONLY" in the game name, this seems like a magnet to the "nasty people".

There was no only in the game.

My response is generic: 'Sorry m8, looking to play someone closer to my rank'

The response is normally 'just one', ah go on' or some other quotes which are followed by a boot for offensive language