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buckjam
buckjam
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15:26 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not true in our case. Keith volunteered to join them for the good of the league. I respected his decision as we'll hardly struggle for active players and I know I can recruit if needed. Ash has kindly offered 2 of his players to them. I like and respect both you and klien, but on this occasion I think your opinion stems from nothing other than self interest.

Are you kidding me? Of course its .................g self interest. We built a team up and want to do well.I spend time here doing updates and organizing stuff everyday. I want us to do well in all competitions and give the big boys a run for their money. Now another clan has folded and we have a self appointed captain taking over a clan that has folded and renaming it . Then he has actively gone to players of other clans and asked players to join him midway through the season. Regardless of how it impacts the chances of our clan in the remaining competitions.Great so Keith chose to help out. This is no word of a lie, as i was a sub, i thought about it myself. But then i read that Connor is poaching...............thats that. They folded and they are out
_takeiteasy_
_takeiteasy_
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15:28 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
If this was the first fixture set of the season then I would 100% agree and offer to release some players... But this is the final set .. They have literally the SL games and the cup to go. There is absolutely no need for a new clan to be formed.

Next season by all means take Alan or whoever else you want. But this is beyond stupidity. Punkpoet said he wanted nobody to continue this season and going around poaching players from teams means we have to find replacements, make subs and in effect risk not completing the games that remain other than the pds games.

I'm sorry but we are totally against this. Should this go ahead I feel you may end up with another clan folding for the remainder of the season.



If you read my last post keep him let that be the end of it
faust
faust
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15:29 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not true in our case. Keith volunteered to join them for the good of the league. I respected his decision as we'll hardly struggle for active players and I know I can recruit if needed. Ash has kindly offered 2 of his players to them. I like and respect both you and klien, but on this occasion I think your opinion stems from nothing other than self interest.

Are you kidding me? Of course its .................g self interest. We built a team up and want to do well.I spend time here doing updates and organizing stuff everyday. I want us to do well in all competitions and give the big boys a run for their money. Now another clan has folded and we have a self appointed captain taking over a clan that has folded and renaming it . Then he has actively gone to players of other clans and asked players to join him midway through the season. Regardless of how it impacts the chances of our clan in the remaining competitions.Great so Keith chose to help out. This is no word of a lie, as i was a sub, i thought about it myself. But then i read that Connor is poaching...............thats that. They folded and they are out


That is fair enough and an honest appraisal. Respect. I am pro continuation of a 6 team league, I'm certainly not against any of the 5 remaining teams.
watchinawe
watchinawe
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15:30 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
It's a bit drastic to consider folding the clan because of the PDs / Cue Brothers situation. Why not just keep it going? If you're really against what's happening then why not just boycott all fixtures against the 'new' clan?
buckjam
buckjam
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15:31 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
This aint about Alan. This is about the principle of you ACTIVELY talking to our players about them coming to you. As a new captain you could have had the decency to first have a discussion with klien or myself. But with the "utter idiot" comment i see decency is not something you understand.
_takeiteasy_
_takeiteasy_
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15:35 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
This aint about Alan. This is about the principle of you ACTIVELY talking to our players about them coming to you. As a new captain you could have had the decency to first have a discussion with klien or myself. But with the "utter idiot" comment i see decency is not something you understand.



I understand it very well i asked if he would be interested he said yes!!!! he told me he was going to ask you not post on a public thread! i only asked him because im a mate others in the clan i dont know very well
klien
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15:35 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
In all seriousness I would have been all for it if this was early in the season.

The fact it's so late is just team destroying ... You're literally creating a new clan with about 7 active pds players and about 7 players from other teams. The best way to have handled this, if it was to go ahead, would be to ask for a volunteer from each clan rather than going around messaging everyone at once. I'm sorry but the whole idea with literally 1 fixture set and the cup to go is just absurd.
_takeiteasy_
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15:37 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Klien i have asked 1 player and 1 player alone!

Any other player i have asked is either a free agent or not in clans!
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15:38 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sorry guys wasn't expecting another kick off lol, soon as klien replied saying he'd prefer me not 2 then that was the end of it as far as I'm concerned.
faust
faust
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15:39 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
This team is only not called Pocket Dynamos because Connor is under the impression that he's not allowed. This isn't actually true, he is well within his rights to keep the name as was seen with Pro's last season. The only problem I can see is the approach of lolumadbro - I can't see how anyone would have a problem otherwise. Ask yourselves this - if I poached Alan would you be threatening to quit the leagues or boycott fixtures? It seems opportunistic outrage to me at a time when we should all be pulling together.

I totally agree that Connor handled it wrong and should have messaged the captains first, and also that have shouldn't have started with the insults. best outcome I can see if for Alan to stay, and we try to put this behind us and concentrate on getting 6 healthy teams playing. I for one don't want to be involved in a 5 team league. not for any ridiculous Childish reason - it just seems to small and rubbish to bother with.
klien
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15:43 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
youve already won the 5 team league!!!!!

This season is pretty much over.. New clans should have to wait until the start of next season now... Again if it was first fixture set I couldn't agree more!
buckjam
buckjam
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15:43 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sorry guys wasn't expecting another kick off lol, soon as klien replied saying he'd prefer me not 2 then that was the end of it as far as I'm concerned.


Alan, this is not about you and your offer to help out. You are one of our strongest players and if we were going to help out another team it would not have been with with you would it? When i got up and started reading i really really did think about loaning out my services as it wouldnt have an effect on our team and im not a bad player. I forgot that as soon as i saw what was happening. And where does it end. The guy has shown no scruples in trying to poach you. How many from huts's team and DFE before hes got enough? Nah stinks from where im sitting
count_raven
count_raven
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15:45 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
sidenote from me:

played sam regardless of the situation and won with a nice 37 run in 1st frame and a couple smaller ones in 2nd. as always he was quite distracted

FBL:
count_raven 2 - 0 fastboysam

ggs mate. all the best wherever it may lead you!
_knightmare_
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15:46 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think everyone just needs to relax, take a chill pill and take heed of the situation.

Pds folded for whatever reasons, been on the demise for a while so it's a shame it's happened now and not the end of the season but it happens. I've folded a team before and regretted it the next day but it was done.

Connor and Keith are trying to reduce as much or any problems/hassle by systematically taking on the folded teams players and adopting a new name change. Great so we keep 6 teams fantastic.

I think the asking players to join them needs to cease completely until they know who's staying and who's not. Ever likely the timing is pretty crap and dare I say it inconsiderate but it is what it is. We all have accrued, built the sides we have and done great to be in the positions we are.

IF I can help with players just till the end of this season and the rest of it continue to be as competitive and enjoyable as the majority of it has already been then I will.

Klien I fully agree with what you're saying the timing is ludicrous and irresponsible too. Had it happened at the beginning or even the end no one really would batter an eyelid the fact the repercussions could be & excuse me for using the word dynamic then it's only right for us teams to feel aggrieved.

I also agree with buckjam, if players are required and sought after then surely ask those on sides who aren't getting enough matches, game time etc. Best way to help improve a player is to play them.
watchinawe
watchinawe
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15:46 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
sidenote from me:

played sam regardless of the situation and won with a nice 37 run in 1st frame and a couple smaller ones in 2nd. as always he was quite distracted

FBL:
count_raven 2 - 0 fastboysam

ggs mate. all the best wherever it may lead you!


Well done Carsten Brilliant run too
count_raven
count_raven
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15:48 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
sidenote from me:

played sam regardless of the situation and won with a nice 37 run in 1st frame and a couple smaller ones in 2nd. as always he was quite distracted

FBL:
count_raven 2 - 0 fastboysam

ggs mate. all the best wherever it may lead you!


Well done Carsten Brilliant run too


faust
faust
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15:48 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sorry guys wasn't expecting another kick off lol, soon as klien replied saying he'd prefer me not 2 then that was the end of it as far as I'm concerned.


Alan, this is not about you and your offer to help out. You are one of our strongest players and if we were going to help out another team it would not have been with with you would it? When i got up and started reading i really really did think about loaning out my services as it wouldnt have an effect on our team and im not a bad player. I forgot that as soon as i saw what was happening. And where does it end. The guy has shown no scruples in trying to poach you. How many from huts's team and DFE before hes got enough? Nah stinks from where im sitting


Try and isolate the "poaching" situation from the rest of it. It IS better if a team continues this season and Keith doesn't have to spend hours of unnecessary work. It IS better if they bring a few clan newbies and ex players back. It IS even better if they get a few players that volunteer to go, albeit with their captains permission. Let's seal off this little blip and try to consider what is best for the comp. A 6 team GSC and a 6 team killer cup is MUCH better than a 5 team one. I'd even like the current outstanding PD's games to be completed by this incarnation.
buckjam
buckjam
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15:49 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
This team is only not called Pocket Dynamos because Connor is under the impression that he's not allowed. This isn't actually true, he is well within his rights to keep the name as was seen with Pro's last season. The only problem I can see is the approach of lolumadbro - I can't see how anyone would have a problem otherwise. Ask yourselves this - if I poached Alan would you be threatening to quit the leagues or boycott fixtures? It seems opportunistic outrage to me at a time we should all be pulling together.

I totally agree that Connor handled it wrong and should have messaged the captains first, and also that have shouldn't have started with the insults. best outcome I can see if for Alan to stay, and we try to put this behind us and concentrate on getting 6 healthy teams playing. I for one don't want to be involved in a 5 team league. not for any ridiculous Childish reason - it just seems to small and rubbish to bother with.


Horse actively offered his services. If connor had gone behind your back and tried to poach him then im not sure you would have been quiet for long. Your extreme reaction to the 2 you lost before the season started is proof of that. You actually ignored one of them who was under the impression that he was a mate. As long as it dont impact you lot then its small potatos. Well this impacts us and i wont sit idly by and watch it happen. PDS is folded and so are their team. They could have asked for help but they didnt.
klien
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15:52 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I remember uprising having a different reaction when 2 of their players were poached at the start of the season.. But hypocritical tbh.

The clan is folded and should not continue this season.. Same name or different name. The whole approach Connor has took is smash and grab.. If it was better handled, and earlier in the season, I would support it.

The cues brothers should wait until next season, now.
buckjam
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15:54 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

YEP
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