Theres no panel, its just Keith i believe but ive posted the guidelines and explained it in detail mate. Every clan read and i hoped understood them.

Need to understand that 2/3 vs 1/3 without looking at effort would go their way as had a player free for two weeks.

That is not calling anyone a tool, his actions and mannerisms were what I caterogized as 'acting as one' actually.

So kindly refrain from getting involved when you are incorrect and clearly trying to provoke an unnecessary argument.

Thanks.

Yeah well the whole 2 weeks inactivity for the 1st fixture is pretty pathetic and lame as no one not that I'm aware of are experts in telekinesis and telepathy.

What has moving objects with the power of the mind got to do with anything? Stop using words without any clue what they mean! Actually....don't! It's hilarious!

Re: defaults, you're not getting screwed over at all. the rule is exactly the same for every single clan. It's how you choose to handle the situation.

He could have picked up Andy with his mind and moved him to the computer desk? ... JS.

nope but it doesn't matter if the clan was aware or not, the default would say he was out for two weeks, it isn't about if captains know or not but the players involved.

take our fixture, north took a week to reply to shadows so week 1 goes to Phoenix and that alone is why i am trying to do what i can to accommodate the team. If you chose to take it to default then i would hold some responsibility and would accept the clan hasn't made enough effort for two weeks so would lose the default and rightfully so.

its all about following the guidelines as the fixture is three weeks long. Scorpions would win weeks 1 and 2 and Phoenix wins week 3 according to guidelines as its there so captains who feel their player made enough effort could refuse to sub and win at defaults (doesn't feel right but better than feeling pressured)

All I'm saying is from the first fixture there has to be some common sense applied when we as Captains unlike any other fixture (barring the 1st) have zilch to base our decisions on.

Jamesmcgarry is unavailable I were told a few days ago he's been held back as a sub this set. There is no way of knowing, correct I could have removed andyw1 from the team but why should I when I'm informed he's due to return and further fixtures were released the following week.

Regrettably andyw1 didn't appear during the first two weeks I couldn't act (sub) so did at the very first opportunity. Only to evidently face an obstinate person who based their lack of effort solely on the two weeks we couldn't do anything.

Wasted my time and joeyys who tried his utmost to complete it. Now his efforts are going to be compared to two weeks where we aren't permitted to sub. Sounds really fair!

but you're wasting time and obsessing about blame. This isn't an issue of who is right or wrong - the rule was set out and clearly defined and we all have to work around it. You've maybe been unfortunate, but now other captains have seen this in action - we'll remove inactives from the team asap - which will only benefit the league overall!

it does because those are the rules set by the runner, you can't expect to make effort in week three and win a default it doesn't work. if the other captains choose to take it to default then nothing you can do except make effort and try and minimize the damage the default would do. Any clan could do it but most prefer to get points on the table but its a protective option.

If needed ill post the guidelines on Discussion and explain for the final time as getting tired having the same cycle over again.

FBL Fix Set 1:
Deadline: 07/02/2016

Phoenix Revenge A

Phoenix Revenge A (6) Vs (2) Uprising Originals


Phoenix Revenge A (5) Vs (1) FPD's A
8us: (s) rapid_pot vs scottyjr
9us: 2pac786 (2) vs (0) the__saint (5-2)
8uk: _fresh_ (2) vs (0) crazy_greg (5-1)
Str: apples_back (1) vs (1) whocares8x8

Phoenix Revenge A (4) Vs (0) Dragon Flame A
8us: (swp) (s) apples_back vs asdfghjk
9us: _knightmare_ (2) vs (0) poolbiird (5-3)
8uk: (swp) rewill vs northman
Str: rapid_pot (2) vs (0) cortez

Phoenix Revenge A (5) Vs (3) Black Scorpions A


Phoenix Revenge A (3) Vs (1) Phoenix Revenge B
8us: rewill vs tinie_v17
9us: apples_back (2) vs (0) _gerardddd_ (7-1)
8uk: _fresh_ vs hunter
Str: rapid_pot (1) vs (1) legend_pot

FBL....Continued

Phoenix Revenge B (4) Vs (4) FPD's B


Phoenix Revenge B (5) Vs (3) Dragon Flame B


Phoenix Revenge B (2) Vs (2) Pocket Dynamos B
8us: friendyboy vs punkpoet (s)
9us: _gerardddd_ (2) vs (0) james_h (6-2)
8uk: joeyy (0) vs (2) blueberry (3-5)
Str: (s) tinie_v17 vs jasonb

Phoenix Revenge B (4) Vs (0) Black Scorpions B
8us: joeyy (2) vs (0) askingfan (5-1)
9us: (swp) tinie_v17 (2) vs (0) sinkemall (5-2)
8uk: (s) _gerardddd_ vs callway40 (s)
Str: (swp) legend_pot vs _flukez_

SL Fixture Set 1
Deadline: 14th February 2016

Phoenix Revenge A

Phoenix Revenge A (10) Vs (9) FPD A
apples_back (3) vs (4) whocares8x8
_fresh_ vs scottyjr
shadows (4) vs (2) klien
rapid_pot (3) vs (3) crazy_greg (s)

Phoenix Revenge A (7) Vs (5) Uprising Originals
_fresh_ vs corsair
2pac786 (3) vs (3) miss_harriet
apples_back (4) vs (2) w_hoolahan
(s) rapid_pot vs clifton188

Phoenix Revenge A Vs Dragon Flame A
_knightmare_ vs red4eva (s)
rewill vs northman
apples_back vs poolbiird
(s) rapid_pot vs asdfghjk

Phoenix Revenge A (4) Vs (2) Pocket Dynamos A
2pac786 vs _siber_man_
_fresh_ (4) vs (2) _takeiteasy_
jamesmcgarry vs the__priest
rewill vs davyb0207

Phoenix Revenge A (6) Vs (0) Phoenix Revenge B
apples_back vs legend_pot
_fresh_ vs joeyy
rapid_pot vs tinie_v17
2pac786 (6) vs (0) friendyboy

Edited at 22:59 Mon 01/02/16 (GMT)

SL...Continued

Phoenix Revenge B

Phoenix Revenge B (5) Vs (1) Uprising Strawberries
tinie_v17 vs dv8
joeyy (5) vs (1) horse10000
legend_pot vs zantetsukenz
andyw1 vs erigert (s)

Phoenix Revenge B (12) Vs (8) Dragon Flame B
tinie_v17 (6) vs (1) __start__
legend_pot vs dvz
hunter (4) vs (3) dgeneratio
joeyy (2) vs (4) i_am_noob

Phoenix Revenge B (2) Vs (4) Pocket Dynamos B
friendyboy vs walktall
hunter (2) vs (4) punkpoet
andyw1 vs james_h
legend_pot vs jasonb

Phoenix Revenge B (8) Vs (4) Black Scorpions B
_gerardddd_ (3) vs (3) scallo
joeyy (5) vs (1) sinkemall
hunter vs callaway40
friendyboy vs _flukez_

Phoenix Revenge A vs Phoenix Revenge B (Same as post above)

FCL Fix Set 2: 31/01/2016 >>> 21/02/2016



* These are the NEW FCL but let's ensure all your FBL and SL are completed preferably before these get played. Some very nice fixtures here, some have nice draws others not so much but remember EVERY point matters. They all accumulate and can be the difference between winning or losing. I could write how much we need to win...but you're not daft - enjoy your fixtures and let's continue what we've started.
GOOD LUCK Team!

* I'll refrain from member tags for the time being - Week 2 they will be added as a gentle reminder.

Edited at 21:12 Mon 01/02/16 (GMT)

rewill (9) - (6) re_rack_jack

Great win mate very well played Jack's a very good player.

A 3 week match cannot be decided by what has happend in the first 2. Not completely anyway. Lets say that BS deserve 66% as they couldnt play because of the in-active player. Then because of blatant obstinacy do not supply a player to play in the 3rd week they should be hit just as hard. Ash couldnt supply a sub in the first 2 weeks as is the rules but would have clearly as Joeyy was made available as soon as subs were allowed. Not an ideal position for anyone but made harder by the stubbornness of a captain. Ash has been just as stubborn in the past and has actually paid for it. _huts_ has to pay as Ash has done before now imo. It has to be fair, regardless of Ash's previous sillyness

James don't speak to me in a condescending manner please. We are not permitted to make any subs during the first two weeks so how can that be compared to just one week when we can? The only time we could act we did yet are going to be penalised for the time we couldn't. If those are the rules then I suggest they be modified or actually develop some with common sense.

People wonder why the site and clans are in decline...it's rubbish like this ridiculousness which encourages and pushes players and members away.

Two weeks = not able to act apart from remove a possible returning player.

One week = Subs are permitted still the time scales cannot be compared as unbalanced. Black Scorpions failed to act in week 3 at all! All because they had the safety net knowing the third week won't amount to anything. What a joke.

I'm just bored Ash of posting the same things over again, i didn't mean to be aggressive but its only a couple of us that understand the guidelines Keith set and if you had to post the same thing 2-3 days running, you would be bored too. It is unfortunate that Huts took it to default but some of your team didn't ask for a sub in a nice manner. Defaults has always been done in the entire fixture set not just because people try and demand subs in final week and expect to win the default as the other clan refused.

I wish Huts did play a player (or the subs rule got lowered to one week but then clans risk putting more inactive players in) but he took it to default which is his right as a captain.

Lets say that BS deserve 66% as they couldn't play because of the in-active player.

^ thats basically it Jamie mate because of the guidelines clans risk that very thing.

I would sub because personally i don't like defaults but if a Captain chooses to take it to Default then nothing you can do.

It is a loophole but prefer it this way or lowered to one week than the last set where people demand subs and expect to get one. If people ask nicely it is different but if people demand then captains are less likely to sub.

11 days - subs not permitted
10 days subs are.

That would be a more fairer way to determine a teams real efforts and application. At least both figures are closer and also give Captains a little longer to hopefully act appropriately.