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dgeneratio
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01:04 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
i don't mind what the score is, if it was the other way i would have left at 1-1 as i don't need to stoop to that to win a clan game, i would respect the rules, not argue and say i would have claimed but fair play for replaying, unlucky on the draw pal.

nothing in rules about "If a player disconnects if the winning player has less than 50% of points they will claim the frame".

would leave them to it Sarah, from now until the end of time they will argue its 2-0, Keith has said 1-1 so no more needed and we are better than that
triple_b
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01:07 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I read every word about 10 times, therefore meant every word.
Ryan made a great gesture but when all is said and done the frame should be awarded as over 50% complete automatically.

Anything short of that is wrong IMO and makes a mockery of the whole game type. Set the precedent and get it right, before next time I'm losing or any of our players are 0-33 just press the little X in the top right hand corner and replay the frame.

How many will ever get replayed? The answer is NONE
Had this been the other way around you'd be kicking and screaming for the 2 points so less of the hypocrisy please.

Don't abuse Ryans good nature.


im not abusing ryans good nature , im praising him on hes very kind act , just shows you how desperate you are for points that you cant even back your own player , i dont think any the other captains would have done what you just have ,

no i would have made such a big stink of this like you have , i would be praising sean if he replayed the frame
triple_b
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01:08 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
i don't mind what the score is, if it was the other way i would have left at 1-1 as i don't need to stoop to that to win a clan game, i would respect the rules, not argue and say i would have claimed but fair play for replaying, unlucky on the draw pal.

nothing in rules about "If a player disconnects if the winning player has less than 50% of points they will claim the frame".

would leave them to it Sarah, from now until the end of time they will argue its 2-0, Keith has said 1-1 so no more needed and we are better than that


just makes my blood boil what hes been saying about you and sean tho
kris
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01:19 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
if he chose to replay then theres not much else to talk about here, clearly.

just my opinion tho, no need to bite my head off now
_knightmare_
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01:23 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
IF the frame was less than 50% complete then by all means replay the frame but 33/35 is nearly 100%. IF it's more than 50% played then surely the fair outcome is to award the frame to the player who completed the most?

It was unfortunate what happened to sean_92 but that doesn't stop or subtract the actual effort our player put in to reach a RUN of 33.


The point in the frame is irrelevant, legend pot had just had a run of 33, Sean is more than capable of knocking in a 35. I have had a player leave while I only had one ball and a black and I replayed as i would never take a frame and always happy to replay, which is my choice. Legend pot had the option to claim the frame or replay the frame. He chose to replay the frame like a true sportsman which some will see as a nice thing to do and others who prefer to win will say he should have taken the frame. The ruling has always been it is up to the player involved so why we have had pages of arguments I have no idea.


Nothing to do with 'wanting to win', of course we'd like to win but when being deprived of it from such an unfair act and ruling then it's nothing but wrong & unfair.

A player who has been offline for a fair while, read all amounts of crap about him about the lack of activity to decide whether to replay a frame or not is stupid. He just wanted to get the game done without any further commotion.

Good for Upr is it not?
friendyboy
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01:25 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No one has slated Ryan, as we said, he has a very, very good nature. We do not blame him for this outcome and will not criticise him for what he decided to do as that is part and parcel of the player that has played for us for a number of seasons!
punkpoet
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01:29 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
And "they" say Pocket Dynamos is a shambles....
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01:33 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Hello triple_b
horse10000
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01:34 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
IF the frame was less than 50% complete then by all means replay the frame but 33/35 is nearly 100%. IF it's more than 50% played then surely the fair outcome is to award the frame to the player who completed the most?

It was unfortunate what happened to sean_92 but that doesn't stop or subtract the actual effort our player put in to reach a RUN of 33.


The point in the frame is irrelevant, legend pot had just had a run of 33, Sean is more than capable of knocking in a 35. I have had a player leave while I only had one ball and a black and I replayed as i would never take a frame and always happy to replay, which is my choice. Legend pot had the option to claim the frame or replay the frame. He chose to replay the frame like a true sportsman which some will see as a nice thing to do and others who prefer to win will say he should have taken the frame. The ruling has always been it is up to the player involved so why we have had pages of arguments I have no idea.


Nothing to do with 'wanting to win', of course we'd like to win but when being deprived of it from such an unfair act and ruling then it's nothing but wrong & unfair.

A player who has been offline for a fair while, read all amounts of crap about him about the lack of activity to decide whether to replay a frame or not is stupid. He just wanted to get the game done without any further commotion.

Good for Upr is it not?
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Lol play the biased card on something that your player decided to do. The replaying of a frame has been the players decision for as long as I remember. A top captain would praise his player on true sportsmanship, a poor captain who is desperate to win at all costs would keep going on about how unfair it is and post the wrong result in the results thread.

I have captained for several seasons and I have always been pro playing frames again as if any player who was desperate enough to leave a frame to try and get a replay if losing then won the replay took any gratification in winning like that, they would be welcome to it as I am sure the win would feel hollow.

I feel sorry for legend pot in all this as he has shown what a true gentleman he is and has been questioned by his own team mates as to his decision, which is very poor in my opinion.
strange_daze
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01:42 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  


wow. current reigning champion for biggest crybaby nonsense talker on this site goes to... ASH
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01:47 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Lmao!
_knightmare_
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02:06 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Right let's leave it there, any further posts and I'll ask admin to remove them.

I appreciate all the support but realise this result will not be amended, common sense on this occasion fails to prevail, but we move on.

Next FBL we have PD's, FPD and Revs - Thanks to your all for completing 23/24 matches and miss_harriet will complete the 24th vs turtle1560.

This is by no means me agreeing with the decision which I feel has violated the team. It's not even regarding the win, it's the principle and premise but now the precedent has been set.

We have a great team here, let's keep doing what we are and that's trying to enjoy it at the same time.

Just for the record legend_pot (Ryan) I commend you for your nice gesture and sportsmanship. We can not prove nor disprove your opponents real reason for leaving the games room but can only go by the results page. Never mind - still a top player, sound guy and one I'm delighted to have on the team list. Great to have you back online too with us.
horse10000
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02:22 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Right let's leave it there, any further posts and I'll ask admin to remove them.

I appreciate all the support but realise this result will not be amended, common sense on this occasion fails to prevail, but we move on.

Next FBL we have PD's, FPD and Revs - Thanks to your all for completing 23/24 matches and miss_harriet will complete the 24th vs turtle1560.

This is by no means me agreeing with the decision which I feel has violated the team. It's not even regarding the win, it's the principle and premise but now the precedent has been set.

We have a great team here, let's keep doing what we are and that's trying to enjoy it at the same time.

Just for the record legend_pot (Ryan) I commend you for your nice gesture and sportsmanship. We can not prove nor disprove your opponents real reason for leaving the games room but can only go by the results page. Never mind - still a top player, sound guy and one I'm delighted to have on the team list. Great to have you back online too with us.


So when you know that you are wrong in all arguments you post that is enough or you will get admin to remove posts. Then post that you still think that the result is wrong then post supporting your players actions even though you have questioned his actions for the whole night along with my biased running of the leagues.

The forums are a place where anyone can post as long as it is within site rules, if you choose to post statements that will get a response do not cry wolf when others respond.
_knightmare_
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02:26 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I haven't accused you of being biased at all - All I said were there's no impartiality and made a comment - Good for Upr is it not? IF you've interpreted that as me accusing you of bias then you're mistaken.
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02:30 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
FBL Fixture Set 1
D/L 20th Sept 2015.

Firestorm Phoenix (13) vs (3) F.P.D - Complete

8us: (s) 2pac786 (1) vs (1) klien (4-4) (s)
8us: friendyboy (2) vs (0) _psmon_ (7-1)
9us: slimeball (2) vs (0) fasteddie_ (5-3)
9us: alex_lewis (2) vs (0) buckjam (s) (5-0)
8uk: _fresh_ (2) vs (0) anoneeemouse (5-2)
8uk: davybaumers (0) vs (2) scottyjr (3-5)
Str: legend_pot (2) vs (0) watchinawe
Str: miss_harriet (2) vs (0) _pot_luck_


Firestorm Phoenix (6) vs (8) Uprising

8us: (swp) (s) slimeball (1) vs (1) erigert (4-4)
8us: achpfsk (0) vs (2) dv8 (3-5)
9us: _payback_ (2) vs (0) _niall_ (5-2) (s)
9us: (swp) davybaumers (1) vs (1) nike (4-4)
8uk: _fresh_ (2) vs (0) r1p0m4n_v2 (6-2)
8uk: (swp) ghost_chili (0) vs (2) corsair (3-5)
Str: (swp) miss_harriet vs turtle1560
Str: joeyy (0) vs (2) clifton188

Firestorm Phoenix (8) vs (8) Pros - Complete

8us: miss_harriet (2) vs (0) bigcjl2 (5-0)
8us: achpfsk (1) vs (1) crazy_greg (4-4)
9us: _payback_ (2) vs (0) nzym_visual (5-0)
9us: ghost_chili (0) vs (2) silent_hill (2-5)
8uk: _fresh_ (1) vs (1) tension (4-4)
8uk: davybaumers (1) vs (1) alfie1966 (4-4)
Str: legend_pot (1) vs (1) sean_92
Str: joeyy (0) vs (2) dvz


Completed: 23/24

Edited at 23:38 Fri 18/09/15 (BST)
_knightmare_
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02:31 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
SL Fixture Set 1
Deadline: 27th Sept

Firestorm A

1. Firestorm A (8) vs (12) FPD A
legend_pot vs _huts24_
_fresh_ (2) vs (4) whocares8x8
achpfsk (3) vs (5) scottyjr
slimeball (3) vs (3) klien

2. Firestorm A (10) vs (8) PD's A
legend_pot vs bulletzzzz
_fresh_ (5) vs (1) punkpoet (s)
achpfsk (4) vs (2) jasonb
slimeball (1) vs (5) marksmith

3. Firestorm A (3) vs (10) Uprising A
legend_pot vs _niall_
_fresh_ (3) vs (4) horse10000
achpfsk vs fran_
slimeball (0) vs (6) turtle1560

4. Firestorm A (7) vs (6) Firestorm B
legend_pot vs davybaumers
_fresh_ (4) vs (2) ghost_chili (swp)
achpfsk (3) vs (4) joeyy
slimeball vs _payback_ (swp)

5. Firestorm A (12) vs (7) Pros A
legend_pot vs dvz (s)
_fresh_ (5) vs (1) triple_b
achpfsk (5) vs (2) vixen_xox
slimeball (2) vs (4) silent_hill

Firestorm B

1. Firestorm B (13) vs (7) PD's B
davybaumers (5) vs (2) w_hoolahan
_payback_ (5) vs (1) the__priest
joeyy vs _siber_man_
ghost_chili (3) vs (4) letsgochamp

2. Firestorm B (3) vs (11) Uprising C
davybaumers (3) vs (4) cgibson92
_payback_ (0) vs (7) corsair
joeyy vs dv8
ghost_chili vs nike

3. Firestorm B (6) vs (0) Rev's B
davybaumers (6) vs (0) _equality_
_payback_ vs mrmagic
joeyy vs derik_dalton
ghost_chili vs mad_matt

4. Firestorm B vs Pros B
davybaumers vs destroyer_v2
_payback_ vs crazy_greg (swp)
joeyy vs nzym_visual (swp)
ghost_chili vs tension
_knightmare_
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02:31 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
FCL Fix Set 2
Deadline: 4th October 2015
Subs Permitted: 27th September 2015

Firestorm Phoenix (12) vs (3) F.P.D

miss_harriet vs the__saint
2pac786 (12) vs (3) blackcabman7
(swp) slimeball vs fasteddie_
(swp) alex_lewis vs _jesus_
friendyboy vs _flukez_
_knightmare_ vs anoneeemouse
ghost_chili vs ferretlady
achpfsk vs _psmon_

Firestorm Phoenix (25) vs (20) Revs

_fresh_ vs mad_matt
davybaumers (10) vs (5) tip_doctor
_payback_ (8) vs (7) tinie_v17
achpfsk (7) vs (8) poolbiird
legend_pot vs lolurmadbro
alex_lewis vs derik_dalton
joeyy vs veyron
friendyboy vs mrmagic

Firestorm Phoenix (17) vs (28) Uprising (2nd)

miss_harriet vs clifton188
_fresh_ (8) vs (7) cgibson92
davybaumers (3) vs (12) corsair
_payback_ (6) vs (9) turtle1560
(swp) ghost_chili vs erigert
legend_pot vs dv8
joeyy vs r1p0m4n_v2
(swp) slimeball vs rubber_duck

Completed: 7/24
Good Luck
Format: 5 X 8us, 9us & 8uk
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02:37 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I haven't accused you of being biased at all - All I said were there's no impartiality and made a comment - Good for Upr is it not? IF you've interpreted that as me accusing you of bias then you're mistaken.
I think the whole thing has been escalated , I have posted on results thread quite clearly why the game was 1-1 , nothing to do with Keith , just the two players involved.
triple_b
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02:40 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Right let's leave it there, any further posts and I'll ask admin to remove them.

I appreciate all the support but realise this result will not be amended, common sense on this occasion fails to prevail, but we move on.

Next FBL we have PD's, FPD and Revs - Thanks to your all for completing 23/24 matches and miss_harriet will complete the 24th vs turtle1560.

This is by no means me agreeing with the decision which I feel has violated the team. It's not even regarding the win, it's the principle and premise but now the precedent has been set.

We have a great team here, let's keep doing what we are and that's trying to enjoy it at the same time.

Just for the record legend_pot (Ryan) I commend you for your nice gesture and sportsmanship. We can not prove nor disprove your opponents real reason for leaving the games room but can only go by the results page. Never mind - still a top player, sound guy and one I'm delighted to have on the team list. Great to have you back online too with us.


who was supporting you ?
erigert
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08:41 Sat 19 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Poor legend_pot who is stuck with these guys who want so desperately to win.

And also shad is banned so we may need few subs for him.
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