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dgeneratio
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15:39 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Thanks Craig, Uprising are supportive of this clan and i support them also. couple of times when we was going to lose a good player, faust would be there trying to encourage me to get them to stay so Uprisings at least have an equal next season.

My personal goal is Second next season like i did with Wipeout and Snooker Squad, but we have the talent and ability to hopefully challenge for first place then my ultimate league goal will be accomplished.

Results will be extra important against Phoenix and Uprising if we want a chance to win but lets not discard the others who can cause upsets too.

Going to be an interesting season for sure
dgeneratio
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15:39 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Players who wish to participate in this seasons player championship, please post on this thread.

http://www.funkypool.com/thread/18491/the-players-championship-news

Due to huge number of dsq's in early rounds last season, I only want players who actually want to play in it entered. Please no posting on behalf of someone.

Closing Date for entering is 28/08/15
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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15:40 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Do you guys want a Pros Tournament, FCL style for some practice?

If you do then add your name...

dgeneratio
nzym_visual
alfie1966
silent_hill
tension

Rules would be a First to 8 across the board (can play full 15) and anyone offline 14 days without notification could be DSQ to keep competition moving.

Entries Open until 28th August

Sign Up Now
_huts24_
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17:47 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Thanks Craig, Uprising are supportive of this clan and i support them also. couple of times when we was going to lose a good player, faust would be there trying to encourage me to get them to stay so Uprisings at least have an equal next season.

My personal goal is Second next season like i did with Wipeout and Snooker Squad, but we have the talent and ability to hopefully challenge for first place then my ultimate league goal will be accomplished.

Results will be extra important against Phoenix and Uprising if we want a chance to win but lets not discard the others who can cause upsets too.

Going to be an interesting season for sure


equal? I don't see pros no where near that james.
beenjammin
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19:12 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Only change for FCL this season will be that the clan who wins will get 3 points and a draw will be 1 point. Bonus points for winning the fixture are removed. All clans are playing each other twice and there will be no split after the first round of games.

The way keith explained this is bull......
What he's actually done here, is remove frame count, and change the bonus points from 20 to 3.

All the while, telling us that he has removed bonus points......
that's bull!, he's made it nothing but bonus points!

"points for winning the fixture" is all that remains..........BONUS POINTS!

and that's my cue to leave clans. He's ruined it for me. In my opinion there isn't a league accurate enough to be worth winning anymore.
I said it weeks ago, that if he removed frame count from FCL, without another league(long enough to be accurate) picking it up, I'd leave clans. Wasn't a threat, as much as some wanted to think, just a sad fact.

If there's ever an accurate league again, I'll be back.

Sorry dgen, if you'd already submitted team list, blame keith for waiting until now to announce the change.

It's been fun guys, and I'll miss playing along side you, especially dave and harriet. Much history on here there
Good luck.
_knightmare_
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19:26 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
3 Points for a win, 1 for a Draw 0 for a Loss.

It's exactly the same as any football league would operate - Frames For, Frames Against - Frame Difference surely will come in to play should the Overall points be the same.

So yes doing away with the bonus points has happened, bonuses are extras where as the 3 or 1 are achieved as a TEAM.
beenjammin
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19:31 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
In the current/previous FCL the bonus points are: points for team match wins, the main score is frame count.

He's dropped frame count, and now only gives points for team match wins.
That means its nothing but the bonus points now, if comparing to how it was.

To say he's dropped the bonus points is misleading, and anyone with a brain knows it.

Wasn't talking to you anyway, your opinion on such things changes as often as the phases of the moon, mind your own business.

Edited at 16:36 Sat 22/08/15 (BST)
horse10000
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19:36 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Oh well the premier league, bundesliga and la liga are all wrong then, instead of the best team winning you would prefer the team who scores the most goals to win the league.
dgeneratio
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19:38 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
doesn't feel much like pros anymore with just dvz left. -_-

i understand been but maybe the other leagues would be point count? hopefully keith will tell us, i'd rather you stay of course but won't stop you if thats how you feel (i knew before when rules was being discussed but was hoping it was sorted).

Out of our teamlist i believe these are from last season...

dvz
crazy_greg
johnythefox
_payback_
_wales_lad_

if you do leave though id rather it be by tomorrow night so i don't need to wait two weeks to sub and amend fixtures accordingly.

hope you reconsider mate but if you do choose to go then its nice knowing you, although we rarely spoke and good luck
beenjammin
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19:39 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Oh well the premier league, bundesliga and la liga are all wrong then, instead of the best team winning you would prefer the team who scores the most goals to win the league.

This isn't football/soccer, and there aren't any goals. A frame is a complete game, all of it's own.
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19:39 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Sad to see another legend leave.
beenjammin
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19:44 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
doesn't feel much like pros anymore with just dvz left. -_-

i understand been but maybe the other leagues would be point count? hopefully keith will tell us, i'd rather you stay of course but won't stop you if thats how you feel (i knew before when rules was being discussed but was hoping it was sorted).

Out of our teamlist i believe these are from last season...

dvz
crazy_greg
johnythefox
_payback_
_wales_lad_

if you do leave though id rather it be by tomorrow night so i don't need to wait two weeks to sub and amend fixtures accordingly.

hope you reconsider mate but if you do choose to go then its nice knowing you, although we rarely spoke and good luck

I asked him on FCL thread, but it seems he'd rather start a debate about how his opinion (team match count) is better than mine (frame count).
Instead of answering my question.
beenjammin
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19:47 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I can answer you now anyway, I'm out. For as long as he's running things.
Wouldn't matter now if FCL really did drop the bonus points. I've no respect left for him.
dgeneratio
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19:50 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
ok mate, good luck

should try snooker
_knightmare_
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19:52 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No need to be rude beenjammin, my opinion hasn't changed - I've always thought the Frames Won favoured the so called top sides - Leagues should not be decided by who wins the most frames.

The difference between Wins and Losses maybe that should be taken in to account BUT not solely how many frames are won. Giving a lower ranked team the opportunity to be on a more level par after them fighting tooth and nail for their own 3 points or 1 point is a good way forward.

IF this can encourage more fairness and reward ALL sides and not just the top ones then so be it. As Keith has said all the Football Leagues apply a similar method and they don't seem to have any issues. I think and a lot of others will see this as a progressive move so I for one have no problems with it.
dgeneratio
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20:02 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
True but this isn't Football, this is Pool, i do think we should have Overall Fixture vibe but for me FCL has always been about frames with a win bonus added. FBL and SL could be about overall points.

for me FCL is the core of Pool and not sure it should change format wise, transfers and subs yes but i believe format is fine.

with FCL counting Overall Wins now i'm hoping one of the other two can count frames as three leagues counting Overall Wins theirs little variety.

^ Not arguing the decision Keith has made and it could benefit in the long run, just like variety
ab_rfc
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20:04 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
yes but like i said i am realistic, not going to say we will win everything when you see Uprisings clan, we are 2nd or 3rd to them. still determined to win like everyone else but the power of balance has been shifted from Pros to Uprising just like MVP to Pros before them. I think Harriet sensed that power shift also.

regarding Firestorm the clan was overconfident last season yes saying we will be top 2 etc, i thought possibly top 3 at the time but with Pros, Uprising and Chips n Gravy i think the team was 4th place until Chips got banned then that put you into 3rd for me.

this season i think you will be 2nd or 3rd as this season i believe you have better players. I still think Uprising will be #1 next season with Firestorm and Pros (no order) behind them.

How are they alike in any way lol, MVP folded and the guys created Pros, uprising and Pros are still going.
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20:05 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
True but this isn't Football, this is Pool, i do think we should have Overall Fixture vibe but for me FCL has always been about frames with a win bonus added. FBL and SL could be about overall points.

for me FCL is the core of Pool and not sure it should change format wise, transfers and subs yes but i believe format is fine.

with FCL counting Overall Wins now i'm hoping one of the other two can count frames as three leagues counting Overall Wins theirs little variety.

^ Not arguing the decision Keith has made and it could benefit in the long run, just like variety


Isn't Sl frame count plus event bonus?
dgeneratio
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20:07 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
yup i was thinking that but still the same, MVP folded so lost top spot, Pros became that top spot, Pros grow weaker and Uprising stronger so Uprising takes torch from Pros.
dgeneratio
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20:08 Sat 22 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
True but this isn't Football, this is Pool, i do think we should have Overall Fixture vibe but for me FCL has always been about frames with a win bonus added. FBL and SL could be about overall points.

for me FCL is the core of Pool and not sure it should change format wise, transfers and subs yes but i believe format is fine.

with FCL counting Overall Wins now i'm hoping one of the other two can count frames as three leagues counting Overall Wins theirs little variety.

^ Not arguing the decision Keith has made and it could benefit in the long run, just like variety


Isn't Sl frame count plus event bonus?


think so but 4 v 4 isn't really accurate for me for frames count.
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