I don't know the 3rd but i highly doubt they was multi-using, if their was then their scores in this set, maybe get zero or something. but i believe the other day was purely banter and a 'joke' something you don't know Craig.

speaking of rules, isn't it an offence to talk about banned users?

If chips n gravy have been cheating then the whole clan should be kicked out of the league in my view . We all work hard to play games and keep within the site rules . My view cheating with multi accounts is the worst kind of cheating !

being kicked is fairly harsh on the others who didn't 'cheat' but if CnG would get kicked if they did 'cheat' then its just allowing us to move clans early as the clan is folding at end of season anyway. so it would be more work for runners.

If they did 'cheat' then maybe their scores should be wiped for the three players only and a 15-0 to be given to all opponents.

It would keep us in the league if they did 'cheat' and the clan is punished while guys who score legit would remain.

Would be alot easier to kick them out the league as you dont know what matches were cheated on, some matches might be missed.

IF it's not been common knowledge throughout the team then the team as a whole shouldn't be punished. Proving it though is the difficult part. The whole credibility of the league has been violated, results being made false, team positions not true.

What it does make a mockery about is all the genuine players and their efforts to try their best for their teams. The season has been ruined by a minority whose actions have implications on every team. Removing a whole team for the actions of 3 so far possibly more to add to me is not the fairest course of action but the ONLY course of action tbh.

I sympathise & empathise with those on that team who have been genuine, unfortunately though it's virtually impossible to prove their actual innocence.

I guess we don't prescribe to "innocent until proven guilty" here?

You know, like every civilised place does?

You miss the point, banning means it's passed the innocent stage.

No, apparently we're all guilty until proven innocent, Jack.

I'm obviously totally against it if these accusations prove to be true as theres just no need for it and it looks bad on the rest of the team, but jeez some people seriously need to get out more, the way you go on It's like your life depends on this game.

Anything to get your team to finish higher up the table tho eh huts

Yep, those cheats should have got out more.

I make you 100% correct on that one

How sad, cheating an online friendly league in a shameless attempt to gain a higher position

Edit: no more posts from me. Way to much attention for what amounts to folk that like to rob themselves.

^ Almost as sad as somebody that isn't even involved in the leagues getting involved and constantly posting about it?

and rob other people too remember!

I like his posts, speaks the truth and always good to have an outsiders opinion on things. It's refreshing to see and also can and should be used wisely not taken so personally.

He has already said his reasons for not joining any team and that unfortunately has been justified again today by the actions of a minority. Hopefully we can all learn from this and try not to tarnish the 'being in clans' reputation or integrity any longer.

Keep posting umma mate.

agreed, and it would scar them for life also if proven to be true.

i agree with Jack too with innocent until proven guilty philosophy if it is true then i would remove the scores of those banned members and give the maximum to their opponents.

if you kick them it would be a lot of work for runners for little reward as CnG are folding in a few weeks anyway or sooner if we can't get the players.

if proven to be true though then its a silly thing to do under Staff noses and makes the league unbalanced as previously mentioned.

other thing you could do is default CnG in last place and everyone else could move up a position (Div 2 champs would still stay).

On a personal note i wouldn't mind it happen to me as i would play anyone whatever the style as i can adapt.

james yet again you and others don't need to get personal
how about sparing a thought for players who give up there time and commitment to their clan, the league and to FP
who have been cheated, yes james cheated
sorry I don't have the same feeling for the team in anyway shape or form

I read a post from foxhound having ago at huts, about his team being in division 2, laughable really
not explaining how his team stole points from committed players and cheated out of them

no matter what the outcome

sometimes examples need to be made
cheating cannot be tolerated in anyway shape or form
people are losing interest in this site
why ??? yet again another example of clan pool
bringing down the site, its embarrassing to every person on this site, if its true.

ive not read an apology anywhere to any player that has been cheated out of points or to the league for bringing it into disrepute

more importantly they gloat

for far to long have runners cheated this league and honest players
we had a very good runner in Chris who gave it back an air of integrity
now we have horse who has continued where Chris has left off

its not hard work to remove a team james you just delete it
simple

giving back points that those players won, and replaying players championship games and cup games

is there not more players involved james ????
because trust me, there well maybe

people should be banned for playing on others accounts
or allowing people to play on theirs if this can be proven
there will be more than 3 in that team that have broken that rule

"james yet again you and others don't need to get personal
how about sparing a thought for players who give up there time and commitment to their clan, the league and to FP
who have been cheated, yes james cheated
sorry I don't have the same feeling for the team in anyway shape or form"

I believe in Innocent until proven Guilty, If their Guilty i will apologise but guys are talking like its a done deal.

"ive not read an apology anywhere to any player that has been cheated out of points or to the league for bringing it into disrepute"

Until it is proven then we don't need to apologise as its classed as Innocent.

Bare in mind though i just came online when posting and reading all this

You moan about clan pool being the death of the site and yet you still play in it every season. LOL.

Why should we apologise for the actions of others? It isn't our fault if they have indeed cheated and there's nothing we could have done about it if we didn't know it was going on.

They haven't murdered anyone, Craig. The world won't end if it does turn out that they cheated. The way you're talking about it is like they're part of ISIS!

I don't see why James or Foxhound or any of the team who weren't involved should have to apologise for something they had no control over.

its called a start