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horse10000
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00:02 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
For the most part the current system works fine mate. All it takes is for each clan to conduct themselves with a little integrity. The only clan currently using tactical subs aren't even honest enough to admit it when everyone else can see what they're doing. Of course if they're the only one's doing it, it renders every success they achieve as false if no other clan is incorporating the same tactics. So yes, it should be all or none.

Do you not think the leagues would lose all enjoyability if every clan followed suit though? I'm not sure I'd want to take part in a sub fest every week. And just because their "lesser" players don't see what's going on, doesn't mean every clans players would accept it, which would mean much more player traffic between teams - and an overall de-stabilising effect.


I honestly believe with what is going on currently the clan leagues are sinking fast as the fun element is being removed. I can remember the early clan leagues with no subs and all the talk / banter was about trying to win the game who would think progress could take us backwards the only thing I can think is that we get rid of swaps and subs until the last weekend. This gives players 12 days to play their games. then subs are only allowed on last weekend, it would be high risk to hold off and try playing tactical subs that late in fixture. Yes you still could but less likely and it gives all clans trying to play games as the leagues intended with the original players 12 days to do so and if they get messed about why should games not go to default.
_huts24_
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00:16 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
For the most part the current system works fine mate. All it takes is for each clan to conduct themselves with a little integrity. The only clan currently using tactical subs aren't even honest enough to admit it when everyone else can see what they're doing. Of course if they're the only one's doing it, it renders every success they achieve as false if no other clan is incorporating the same tactics. So yes, it should be all or none.

Do you not think the leagues would lose all enjoyability if every clan followed suit though? I'm not sure I'd want to take part in a sub fest every week. And just because their "lesser" players don't see what's going on, doesn't mean every clans players would accept it, which would mean much more player traffic between teams - and an overall de-stabilising effect.


last season no problems occured with subs ect games were played quick and all clans got on mostly well . (this was after ash team went )

keith idea is right about no subs until 12 days into the fixture , might work well
faust
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00:22 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
FBL Sub
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barkley20 v cgibson92
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barkley20 v sharky89
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faust
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barkley20 v davybaumers
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barkley20 v clifton188
faust
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FBL Sub
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barkley20 v clifton188
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barkley20 v _niall_
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00:28 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
ok thats faust lmao
turtle1560
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00:28 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Do cgibson, sharky, davy and clifton know that you're just using them for personal satisfaction?
faust
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00:32 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Do cgibson, sharky, davy and clifton know that you're just using them for personal satisfaction?


Nope, I was in and out before they even knew it!
turtle1560
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00:33 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Do cgibson, sharky, davy and clifton know that you're just using them for personal satisfaction?


Nope, I was in and out before they even knew it!


lmao.. well the name uprising certainly suits ye
hippesville
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01:01 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
hmmmm.....no problems with subs????
You gotta love it really
_huts24_
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01:58 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
SL

_huts24_ vs fatmikee

8us: 1-1
9us: 1-1
8uk: 2-0

overall 4-2 huts

ggs mikee , thanks for playing u done well at times
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02:21 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
After reading through the Unbeatables thread I agree that clan games are genuinely being ruined by subs n swaps being taken place way too early in fixtures without valid excusable reason. Therefore, I believe that the idea put in by horse10000 should be drafted in to avoid the randomness of clan games being rendered useless.
Initial fixtures being given a time frame of 12/14 days to get done and then subs n swaps to be taken place during the final weekend of the fixture if the game is incomplete. Also subs and swaps can be opposed by the opposition if they feel they have been messed around to avoid initial fixture which in turn shall lead to an uncontested default situation provided suitable evidence is put forward.
I also feel that in the case a player is either banned or offline for more than 7 days then there should be a clause allowing a sub to take place without any reason.
Would love to hear from all clan players regarding this situation.. And then implemented given the outcome of the reaction. Thank you and cheers for reading.

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02:26 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Alot of players feel this way, i don't blame the player or players being subbed in.But like UB uprising Pro LISTS are sent in for a reason,but when the score line seems in your favour BOOM tactical play comes into it.

I don't know how to fix it but as stated Horse has made a valid point and i for one will pertition for it to happen.

Im very sure i will get backers as alot feel this way, not just Ub Uprising, but other clans who have voiced their opinion.

This again is in no way aimed at the subs who have been used, please understand that.
horse10000
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03:11 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
FBL - Fixture Set 3

Unbeatables 5 v 9 Uprising


8 US onevisit (0) v (5) dv8
8 US raker (4) v (4) erigert
9 US horse10000 (3) v (5) derik_dalton
9 US mrmagic (5) v (2) zantetsukenz
8 UK sleipnir (4) v (4) r1p0m4n_v2
8 UK barkley20 v _niall_
STR turtle1560 (1) v (1) corsair
STR fran_ (0) v (2) lll1lll1lll


Unbeatables 6 v 2 F.P.D.

8 US lateo1993 (2) v (5) buckjam
8 US mikeybboy v moonbeam06
9 US fran_ (5) v (1) rednose1972
9 US _huts24_ v just_lucky
8 UK poolbiird v blackcabman7
8 UK x_connor v kelly1987
STR turtle1560 (2) v (0) anoneeemouse
STR mrmagic (2) v (0) r08

Deadline 25/01/15
horse10000
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03:12 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Grand Slam Cup - Round 1

The Revolution 3 v 3 Unbeatables

FCL drewdt3 v sleipnir
FCL kris (10) v (5) lateo1993
SL pointless v x_connor
SL vlad_putin v fran_
8 US veyron v horse10000
9 US marblewood (6) v (6) mikeybboy
8 UK nathyboy v barkley20
STR who_me (0) v (3) _huts24_

Deadline 25/01/15
horse10000
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03:17 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Super League Fixture 3 - Group B

The Revolution 7 v 11 Unbeat'A'bles

marblewood (4) v (2) poolbiird
nathyboy v fran_
sillybilly (1) v (5) onevisit
jampot v raker
drewdt3 (2) v (4) turtle1560

Sev7n 'n' Deadly 15 v 11 Unbeat'A'bles

iam_me (2) v (4) poolbiird
ooo_u_tap_2 (4) v (3) fran_
crazykid (6) v (1) onevisit
jittzdulay v raker
lfc12 (3) v (3) turtle1560

Deadline 25/01/15
blackcabman7
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04:50 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
swap 8 UK
poolbiird v blackcabman7
x_connor v kelly1987

is now

blackcabman7 vs x_connor
kelly1987 vs poolbird

reason for swap me and connor was on line
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05:05 Sat 17 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Take a look all the subs swaps he has done in just one week still two days to go for first week lol totally joke tbh Posted Image
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