I just realised that friendyboy is online and playing games at the same time as they swap crazykid in to play his game. Now there must have been a genuine reason why he needed to be subbed in, I just can't think of one

As stated before when we meet them again i am personally sending ash my teamlist for the FIXTURE so no subs swaps etc need to be made and he can decide his team ahead of schedule to accomadate all of his players.

No deal, we'll send you your teamsheet

Oh it is a deal, maybe then we can meet in the FCL game and turtle will play legend_pot and crazy can have his pick of opponents. Makes it easier than subbing or being tactical.

Just to clear up i would have been in the fixture but was not sure if i could get online so rhey keep me out unless i say im available

It's honestly ok crazy about the sub, but as horse stated above just proves the point. Ub dont mind losing a game its all fun to us we just give it a good try with the players we submit!

well done on your win as it was a good one mate.

Cheers mate

Sorry turtle didn't make the team, didn't like his attitude

Lmao ^^^^

I will keep him as a sub for when needed will that suit ya?

Sorry iV not been online lads iv been in hospital and have been diagnosed with Musculoskeletal and is putting me In severe pain.

Sorry lads.

Sorry about that mate, il keep u out of the next set of games until you feel up to playing.

I'm in the house until 9/2 anyway mate so playing is no problem just be out my face on morphine is all

Like fran has stated there is no issue with you having a good win after subbing in.

The leagues have always been run on the basis that 2 teams are randomly drawn and that subs and swaps were used as a last resort to get games completed to stop defaults. We have not done any subs this season until either the end of fixture sets or removing an inactive player. Any team could do subs like 15th man are doing but I have not seen any or been aware of any. It was discussed at the start of the season to get rid of subs and swaps altogether but most clans were against as it would increase defaults. We either need to accept 'tactical' subs and like fran says we just show teams and others match up or something needs to be done to stop them as it is ruining the fundamental basics of how the leagues were set up.
I would prefer to lose with my original players I submit than sub someone out for what many would perceive a better player. It does not say a lot for what you think of that player if you do this in my opinion.
Yes if we got rid of subs, teams may choose to put out their top players every game but the rest of there players would soon get bored and leave so they better hope that there top 8 were active all the time, but that is their choice and after the random draw it cannot be manipulated.

For next FCL set here is our team lists in case any of the teams we are playing are interested -

The Revolution v Unbeatables

turtle1560
poolbiird
mrmagic
fran_
barkley20
onevisit
raker
sleipnir


Pocket Dynamos v Unbeatables

fran_
horse10000
mikeybboy
turtle1560
lateo1993
x_connor
_huts24_
onevisit

For the most part the current system works fine mate. All it takes is for each clan to conduct themselves with a little integrity. The only clan currently using tactical subs aren't even honest enough to admit it when everyone else can see what they're doing. Of course if they're the only one's doing it, it renders every success they achieve as false if no other clan is incorporating the same tactics. So yes, it should be all or none.

Do you not think the leagues would lose all enjoyability if every clan followed suit though? I'm not sure I'd want to take part in a sub fest every week. And just because their "lesser" players don't see what's going on, doesn't mean every clans players would accept it, which would mean much more player traffic between teams - and an overall de-stabilising effect.

FBL - Fixture Set 3

Unbeatables v Uprising

8 US raker (4) v (4) erigert (runout me/7 balling eri.

I got to 4-1 up in this,but alas the final frame eluded me,credit to eri for clawing it back.

Good games erigert well played.

Surely the reason is because now friendyboy can sub in and play raker since they are both online

Lol makes sense now

Well done raker

Thanks Keith

Bring on the sub