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derik_dalton
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20:53 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
i reckon next season if after a few games we cant win it, well fold, and either call for league to be restarted or just change our account names and hope that pros or ubs will have us, i meen what kind of a man would want to play a season out with his mates, when he can get lump on and try to start again or simply change his name.

christ o mighty listen to yourselves and look at peoples recent actions the ridicholous, be a man and sail the ship, dont just jum overboard or sink it
faust
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20:54 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
handbags out at the ready i for one would like to say ballbreakers was folding at end of season we are doing our best to stay afloat as is but i do fill it will be good to start season again as for pros and uprising surly better to win the league with several good reliable teams in it than winning on the fact u the only 3 or 4 reliable teams with 2 folded already and bbs and wolfs rocking really to be proud of winning that league not.

Anyway bbs will try struggle through but if a vote called to restart season it would help new runners and get thing sorted as new runners and formats


With all due respect Kenny, BB's, Wolf Pack et all would have little bearing on Pro's, Uprising or Unbeatables season. The season will be determined on who wins when these teams play each other. Also if Phoenix manage to turn one or more of these teams over.


But if bb and wolf fold thats another 2 teams gone so stu why dont we have 2 divs like old days. and start div 2 now with new teams.


Because us, Pro's and UB's are in the best battle that there has been on funkypool for about 5 seasons! Why should we be punished for running successful clans? Currently there are kind of 2 divisions operating in one division anyway, with Us, Pro's, UB's and Phoenix being in div 1.
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20:55 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I still think league should be back to 2 divs
derik_dalton
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20:55 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
handbags out at the ready i for one would like to say ballbreakers was folding at end of season we are doing our best to stay afloat as is but i do fill it will be good to start season again as for pros and uprising surly better to win the league with several good reliable teams in it than winning on the fact u the only 3 or 4 reliable teams with 2 folded already and bbs and wolfs rocking really to be proud of winning that league not.

Anyway bbs will try struggle through but if a vote called to restart season it would help new runners and get thing sorted as new runners and formats


With all due respect Kenny, BB's, Wolf Pack et all would have little bearing on Pro's, Uprising or Unbeatables season. The season will be determined on who wins when these teams play each other. Also if Phoenix manage to turn one or more of these teams over.


But if bb and wolf fold thats another 2 teams gone so stu why dont we have 2 divs like old days. and start div 2 now with new teams.


im sure mav and rocket will try there best to keep em going, if u do what u have been doing at bbs u will be fine, they ought to stop these clans from forming till pre season that would be a step in the right dire tion
erigert
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20:55 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I still think league should be back to 2 divs

we had them even that way and it was a failure
faust
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20:56 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I still think league should be back to 2 divs


There's MILES more than 2 divs in the league right now!

Badoom tish! lol
faust
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20:57 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I still think league should be back to 2 divs


Thing is Kenny, reliable teams like Dynamos and Misfits would probably be in division 2, and why should they suffer right now? Both teams have put effort in to being reliable and steady!
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20:58 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  


Because us, Pro's and UB's are in the best battle that there has been on funkypool for about 5 seasons! Why should we be punished for running successful clans? Currently there are kind of 2 divisions operating in one division anyway, with Us, Pro's, UB's and Phoenix being in div 1.


ok stu whatever m8 i aint arguing or falling out the little digs at me by so many it not worth it, just wish i kept mouth shut and not have my say.
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20:59 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I still think league should be back to 2 divs


Thing is Kenny, reliable teams like Dynamos and Misfits would probably be in division 2, and why should they suffer right now? Both teams have put effort in to being reliable and steady!


well i will try keep bbs going as long as can.

it was just an idea.
faust
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21:04 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  


Because us, Pro's and UB's are in the best battle that there has been on funkypool for about 5 seasons! Why should we be punished for running successful clans? Currently there are kind of 2 divisions operating in one division anyway, with Us, Pro's, UB's and Phoenix being in div 1.


ok stu whatever m8 i aint arguing or falling out the little digs at me by so many it not worth it, just wish i kept mouth shut and not have my say.


Wait on Kenny, if I made a dig I certainly didn't mean to! You've done a sterling job so far considering 3 of the captains so far all let BB's down.
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21:08 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  


Because us, Pro's and UB's are in the best battle that there has been on funkypool for about 5 seasons! Why should we be punished for running successful clans? Currently there are kind of 2 divisions operating in one division anyway, with Us, Pro's, UB's and Phoenix being in div 1.


ok stu whatever m8 i aint arguing or falling out the little digs at me by so many it not worth it, just wish i kept mouth shut and not have my say.


Wait on Kenny, if I made a dig I certainly didn't mean to! You've done a sterling job so far considering 3 of the captains so far all let BB's down.


no not u stu other people on this site no names
punkpoet
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21:53 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Just reading a couple of thread posts.
people do seem worried about new clans where current clans are struggling for players. I mean we all know they will have to poach to get players.
How about a limit to how many clans are allowed?

I reckon clans should be cut down to 12 players, that way captains will purposely pick active players, unsure if that will be popular...
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22:04 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Just reading a couple of thread posts.
people do seem worried about new clans where current clans are struggling for players. I mean we all know they will have to poach to get players.
How about a limit to how many clans are allowed?

I reckon clans should be cut down to 12 players, that way captains will purposely pick active players, unsure if that will be popular...


i reckon 14 would help free up some players
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22:14 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
(posted 23 days ago...many sleeps ago)

14 Players would be better than 12 IMO, 12 is way too short, 8 individual matches per FCL, leaving 4 subs. What if some go away on holiday or aren't available. Having 6 potential subs is much better and sensible than having 4.

My only problem with reducing clan sizes if the amount of matches a player will play.
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22:20 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
12 is more than enough to run a clan in all leagues. Look at pros for a stint this season, snooker squad before that and underdogs perennially running on short squads. 16 is too many, 2 clans fold so that means half your squad don't get games for weeks at a time. No idea how to implement it though as pointed out why should people throw folk out. Maybe just natural slippage. too many leagues is an issue, perhaps pap super league of as the people who run it have lost all interest. Go back to fcl and fbl. Worked before so don't see any issues.
horse10000
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22:21 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
The current season must finish regardless of how many clans fold. Maybe changing the rule so that clans that fold, their players do not become free agents but they have to wait till the following season. It might stop players jumping or causing chaos, knowing that they had to wait a few months before they could play in a clan again.
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22:28 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
The current season must finish regardless of how many clans fold. Maybe changing the rule so that clans that fold, their players do not become free agents but they have to wait till the following season. It might stop players jumping or causing chaos, knowing that they had to wait a few months before they could play in a clan again.


Agree with this, this were what the initial post were about. Players jumping ship way too early or signalling split loyalty's. The only time you can join another team is the Mid Season Window, atm is appears that's not applicable and makes a mockery of the whole league imo.

There should be some restriction in place where you cannot just jump ship when it suits. (which I thought there were).
horse10000
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22:34 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
12 is more than enough to run a clan in all leagues. Look at pros for a stint this season, snooker squad before that and underdogs perennially running on short squads. 16 is too many, 2 clans fold so that means half your squad don't get games for weeks at a time. No idea how to implement it though as pointed out why should people throw folk out. Maybe just natural slippage. too many leagues is an issue, perhaps pap super league of as the people who run it have lost all interest. Go back to fcl and fbl. Worked before so don't see any issues.


I have completed a season with no defaults for flying pigs with 8 active players, this does not mean it is right. We had 8 players who most would want in their side as they are active and get games played.

The clan numbers used to be 12, then up to 14 and then 16. Clans still have inactive players with 16 players or players who make little or no effort to get games played. There are only so many active members who put the effort into get games played. Reducing clan numbers would just increase the defaults etc as has happened in the past and the reason why it has been raised in the first place. UB and pros have both probably got only 10 or so active members that get all their games played easily, this is due to the members involved in those teams. Other clans can have 16 players, 4 or 5 are inactive, and 4 or 5 don't make the effort to get games played. So this clan can be trying to get there 8 games played with 6 players who are actually making the effort, active and trying. Thus why we end up with defaults.
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22:36 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I don't see the problem with 3 new clans forming. We've lost two mid-season and WP (unfortunately-unless someone wants to take over and continue them) will be the third. As Stu has said many times before, it's easy signing players, it's keeping them active and going. Neither me nor Johnny wanted to captain a side again, too much hassle and we only did it to help out someone. No point stopping the season now...play it out.
dgeneratio
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22:39 Tue 1 Apr 14 (BST)  [Link]  
regarding jumping ship its all down to circumstances.

a- solely on the captain folding the clan

players should not be punished

b- players leave and captain has no choice but to fold

captain should not be punished
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