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We will consider it and have a look.
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Entrants

The Professionals (list provided)
Uprising (list provided)
The Underdogs
Phoenix Storm
Wolf Pack
Ballbreakers (list provided)
Pocket Dynamos (list provided)
The Unbeatables
The Firing Squad
Fighting Eagles

Please can you send all team lists either to mattywellie, chris or pirate_steve.

Please note that team lists will be checked by the league runners who will make a decision on the viability and reliability of each before accepting their entry to the competition.

As all three leagues are asking for team lists at the same time, if you provide us with one we will use it for all of the leagues that you enter - unless you make us aware of any differences that you require there to be
punkpoet
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00:26 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'd be happy to say right now: Only Myself and Vices will make subs throughout the entire season, including Deadline Day for Phoenix Storm in ALL competitions. (hopefully have all fixtures played before then tbh)


And as long as your clan members understand that then all's good. Other clans will no doubt want to do it differently which should be up to them.


Lol ash the rule is anyone can do subs on deadline day. You had no qualms about going to one of my players and demand he play whilst I was online even though I told you my player would be online (which he was)
Just dont like double standards as you and others will still try and get who you consider as weaker players to play in games on deadline day as unfortunately thats how it is in clans theese days.
cke1982
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00:40 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
It could but surely part of the set criteria to be a Captain or Vice should mean you are active or have an active staff member online throughout the entire fixture? I don't mean online all day just visible some of it.

Sorry i'll cease using that term, i guess the flexibility could be made flexible in itself, some teams could opt to have only the Captains or Vices choose and some the entire team. This could be made apparent before the start of the season so all teams are made aware?

I'd be happy to say right now: Only Myself and Vices will make subs throughout the entire season, including Deadline Day for Phoenix Storm in ALL competitions. (hopefully have all fixtures played before then tbh)


surely if ur capatin sometimes have 2 vices surely one can be online for deadline day i hate rule anyone can be subbed in on deadline day makes no point haveing a captain
cke1982
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00:43 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
It could but surely part of the set criteria to be a Captain or Vice should mean you are active or have an active staff member online throughout the entire fixture? I don't mean online all day just visible some of it.

Sorry i'll cease using that term, i guess the flexibility could be made flexible in itself, some teams could opt to have only the Captains or Vices choose and some the entire team. This could be made apparent before the start of the season so all teams are made aware?

I'd be happy to say right now: Only Myself and Vices will make subs throughout the entire season, including Deadline Day for Phoenix Storm in ALL competitions. (hopefully have all fixtures played before then tbh)


surely if ur capatin sometimes have 2 vices surely one can be online for deadline day i hate rule anyone can be subbed in on deadline day makes no point haveing a captain


but idea of posting who can make subs is a good idea on ur team list
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02:17 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yeah - As agreed we'll keep this a team matter. That way clans still retain that flexibility to do how they please
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02:19 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'd be happy to say right now: Only Myself and Vices will make subs throughout the entire season, including Deadline Day for Phoenix Storm in ALL competitions. (hopefully have all fixtures played before then tbh)


And as long as your clan members understand that then all's good. Other clans will no doubt want to do it differently which should be up to them.


Lol ash the rule is anyone can do subs on deadline day. You had no qualms about going to one of my players and demand he play whilst I was online even though I told you my player would be online (which he was)
Just dont like double standards as you and others will still try and get who you consider as weaker players to play in games on deadline day as unfortunately thats how it is in clans theese days.


LOL, you can return to the present day via your Tardis soon, I'm speaking about the next season not the past.

Thanks.
punkpoet
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02:20 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'd be happy to say right now: Only Myself and Vices will make subs throughout the entire season, including Deadline Day for Phoenix Storm in ALL competitions. (hopefully have all fixtures played before then tbh)


And as long as your clan members understand that then all's good. Other clans will no doubt want to do it differently which should be up to them.


Lol ash the rule is anyone can do subs on deadline day. You had no qualms about going to one of my players and demand he play whilst I was online even though I told you my player would be online (which he was)
Just dont like double standards as you and others will still try and get who you consider as weaker players to play in games on deadline day as unfortunately thats how it is in clans theese days.


LOL, you can return to the present day via your Tardis soon, I'm speaking about the next season not the past.

Thanks.


Using it as an example obviously
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krazyash_07;1628229]I'd be happy to say right now: Only Myself and Vices will make subs throughout the entire season, including Deadline Day for Phoenix Storm in ALL competitions. (hopefully have all fixtures played before then tbh)

And as long as your clan members understand that then all's good. Other clans will no doubt want to do it differently which should be up to them.

Lol ash the rule is anyone can do subs on deadline day. You had no qualms about going to one of my players and demand he play whilst I was online even though I told you my player would be online (which he was)
Just dont like double standards as you and others will still try and get who you consider as weaker players to play in games on deadline day as unfortunately thats how it is in clans theese days.

Agreed Zac,but in are case he posted the day before deadline for none of his players to play any games,even if thay was ask to play.
and we both had eligible players online.
it was all a tacical manoviour so he could have his best players on on deadline day. we begged him and thantos to plz play your games .but it was a no. LOL A Joke.
punkpoet
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02:52 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I do think the runners need to look at the rules as they can be abused and Im not singling Ash out here.
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03:05 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I do think the runners need to look at the rules as they can be abused and Im not singling Ash out here.


Single me out i don't care, I did nothing wrong...match got played at the same time as scheduled and i were unavailable. No one from the opposition would be moaning if they'd won, instead suffered an 8-0 loss enforcing a 35-21 win...all good. The team won not me.
punkpoet
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03:13 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I do think the runners need to look at the rules as they can be abused and Im not singling Ash out here.


Single me out i don't care, I did nothing wrong...match got played at the same time as scheduled and i were unavailable. No one from the opposition would be moaning if they'd won, instead suffered an 8-0 loss enforcing a 35-21 win...all good. The team won not me.


I said im not singling you out lol.
So you're reply is abit weird.
punkpoet
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03:14 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I give up some people just want to argue I guess.
_pro__frog_
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03:17 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think no matter what rules a put in place there is never going to be a solution to any 'tactical' decisions whilst we all play behind screens as no on ever knows the true reason. Ash don't take it the wrong way but I know my players and I trust everything they say, althought I am by no means biased. However a good example to reinforce what I was saying, it did look a little coincedental and dodgy with the swap (Ash) made on deadline day. I'm not saying it was a tactical decision, but when a said player chases you up 3 times or so and you don't play alarm bells do ring. However there may have been a genuine reason of which could have been 100% viable and so there was no need for any unnecessary nonesense.
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09:35 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I hate this rule about players subbing in last day as it should be down to captains and vices for both clans to make subs if games need to be played .

Edited at 07:40 Sat 01/02/14 (GMT)
the__priest
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11:11 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
no matter what the rule is or isn't
tactical play involving teams leaving fixtures till deadline to get them played is where the problem is

the rule about anyone playing and subbing in is pure dumb
it encourages top teams to leave games then force teams or even coheres people into playing

how many times have games been left till deadline with him or her saying its there fault its his fault

people being put in at the last moment to get a game played,

the solution i put forward many seasons ago and was scorned on by the usual serial nonsense posters

don't give a bonus for completing a fixture give it for finishing it early

for example

finish on deadline day
0 points
1 day before
1 point etc
2 days before
2 points

1 week before 10 points

may need tweaking but the idea i believe is sound
encourage games to be played early

how many times do players say im not playing in the first week its all over threads, sub them out then and put people in who can be flexible

top teams seem to be in charge here, leaving games to be played till deadline so forcing lower teams to put anyone in against them

how many top teams don't seem to have players online throughout the fixture
then booom out of he blue come deadline day there all on
play me play me, you make a sub or a swap
age old problem
_huts24_
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13:39 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
no matter what the rule is or isn't
tactical play involving teams leaving fixtures till deadline to get them played is where the problem is

the rule about anyone playing and subbing in is pure dumb
it encourages top teams to leave games then force teams or even coheres people into playing

how many times have games been left till deadline with him or her saying its there fault its his fault

people being put in at the last moment to get a game played,

the solution i put forward many seasons ago and was scorned on by the usual serial nonsense posters

don't give a bonus for completing a fixture give it for finishing it early

for example

finish on deadline day
0 points
1 day before
1 point etc
2 days before
2 points

1 week before 10 points

may need tweaking but the idea i believe is sound
encourage games to be played early

how many times do players say im not playing in the first week its all over threads, sub them out then and put people in who can be flexible

top teams seem to be in charge here, leaving games to be played till deadline so forcing lower teams to put anyone in against them

how many top teams don't seem to have players online throughout the fixture
then booom out of he blue come deadline day there all on
play me play me, you make a sub or a swap
age old problem


Totally Agree with all this post
_pro__frog_
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13:53 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Something like this could work, but there is a flaw to this. It's all well giving bonus points to fixtures that are finished early, but the bonus can be interfered by opposing teams i.e. the bonus is not completely controlled by your own clan. Points in recent seasons have been relatively close and these bonuses could potentially change the standings.

For example, Snooker Squad are look like they are going to win the league, but Professionals are very close behind. What's to say that foul play behind the scenes means that whoever is playing SS may delay the completion of fixtures to help Pros win the league.

At least with the current system the system aims to reduce defaults and games can be played anytime within a 2 week period. If you are going to award teams for finishing early, then what's the point of a deadline? For one reason or other people may not be able to play in the first week, seems unfair that the whole team is penalised even when the deadline is set at 2 weeks.
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13:58 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
That would never work Craig, it will only cause more trouble than it's worth, with players feeling more pressurized in to playing for the sake of a few more points. Points available should and only be that which is obtainable in the fixture itself. Players will play when they are fit and ready, whole point in having a deadline.

Maybe their could be some added Captain bonuses of some sort but nothing silly.
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14:36 Sat 1 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
krazyash_07;1628229]I'd be happy to say right now: Only Myself and Vices will make subs throughout the entire season, including Deadline Day for Phoenix Storm in ALL competitions. (hopefully have all fixtures played before then tbh)

And as long as your clan members understand that then all's good. Other clans will no doubt want to do it differently which should be up to them.

Lol ash the rule is anyone can do subs on deadline day. You had no qualms about going to one of my players and demand he play whilst I was online even though I told you my player would be online (which he was)
Just dont like double standards as you and others will still try and get who you consider as weaker players to play in games on deadline day as unfortunately thats how it is in clans theese days.

Agreed Zac,but in are case he posted the day before deadline for none of his players to play any games,even if thay was ask to play.
and we both had eligible players online.
it was all a tacical manoviour so he could have his best players on on deadline day. we begged him and thantos to plz play your games .but it was a no. LOL A Joke.


You begged thanatos when:

a) They were browsing on their fone
b) The opponent thanatos was due to play was not online either!!

So Sir if anything is A JOKE, it would be you!
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