Personally I don't agree with all the subs/swaps nowadays to get a clan match won,, I don't mind who I play tbh so what there better than me its what makes you a better player and you can learn from those top players maybe have 1 tactical sub per set and not sub/swap players around unless they have been offline a certain time,,only an idea cos its getting out of hand at the moment,,doesn't give the likes off the lesser ranked players a chance cos there getting swapped or subbed out of the fixture they join a clan not just to make the numbers up but also to play a game of pool

Edited at 23:52 Sun 14/07/13 (BST)

should go in Clan Chat or one of the main League sections

I completely agree I feel to make a sub you should need to show there's been contact and the game will most likely be unplayed, or the opponent is offline 7 days or in the final day or 2.

Doesnt need to go in main league section, for runner use only remember.

Moved from Queries

Yep I agree with this, a rule needs to be put into place

I think it well get out of hand if it continues if u restricted it to 1 or 2 swaps per fixture, i cant see there being problems.

i agree with this

We are allowed 1 swap in any fixture in the FBL, I've done that, due to a genuine mistake, I put a player in the wrong game type. Many teams have done this in error, it happens.

I agree with this too. I've just taken a leaf out of your book and realised it's got no pages.

They used to restrict subs and it did not work, the clan league has evolved over many seasons if it was to put in a rule it would be a huge step backwards.

Why in a team game is everyone so against tactical subs. If man utd were losing and they have van persie on the bench, they are going to put him on and hope it turns the game. Why should clan games be any different. If snooker squad are losing and seb is on the bench why should he not sub in to try and turn the game into SS favour? As long as a player is part of a clan it should not matter who plays as long as the games get completed.

If players are unhappy that captain subs them out for a tactical reason, it is for that player to bring it up with his captain it has nothing to do with the league runners.

yeah but in football 3 subs are allowed if you make the same here it would be good but dont see that happening

1 swap i can see problems towards end of a fixture, 2 or 3 is the best bet although i do believe that swaps should be unlimited.

Captains could use numerous subs to get round the swap

Example:

Dgeneratio vs Mattywellie
Whocares8x8 vs Dvz
Lethal_lures vs Horse10000
Jose_enrique vs Beenjammin
R1p0m4n vs Fuunky

I want to Swap

Dgeneratio vs Mattywellie
Whocares8x8 vs Dvz

Subs:

Dgen vs Matty - One_for_all in
Seb vs Dvz - Davey_1985 in
One vs Matty - Seb in
Davey vs Dvz - Dgen in

New Fixtures:

Dgeneratio vs Dvz
Whocares8x8 vs Mattywellie

so i got round a swap by using 4 subs

So you are fine with tactical subs as long as they limit the number of them?

you may well agree huts, imo you have been the chief instigator in the tactical sub problem, and i think ud be telling porkies if u didnt admit to it, i think a system needs ptting in place where 2 swaps are allowed,obv people will say it cant be rtestrticted because of matching times and so on, well use the swaps wisely, if tyhen at the end of the tie and a team cant play a player as they need to swap for availability, it should be considerd in default when the original swaps were made and why they were made

They will all do it when it suits then Horse, but because it were against them and they disapproved of the matches (worried over the outcome) they have kicked up a fuss. I totally agree, subs and strategy should be used, we all want to win and so be it.

Totally agree we have 16 players in a clan for a reason, they should all be able to play a part when required

There is a difference tho between tactical subs and picking who you want to play, I don't see the point in having a random draw if people can just choose who they want to play

no ones really questioning subs, there on about swaps

So you end up with an internet problem and ask mattie to sub you out. How can you prove that the sub mattie puts in was for that reason and not a 'tactical' one. You would know but the team you were playing against would need to take your word for it.

Like i said if you as a player are tactically subbed out of a game, the problem and issue you should bring up with your captain as it is of no concern to anyone else.