not changing my mind anyway, only way i would is if same player is allowed in both killer games but thats not going to happen so

I'm lookin at it logically how hard is 12 killer defaults going to be? Potentially. When if we got rid of a few games that I understand have already been played it would be far easier and shouldn't make that much of a change to the overall standings.

What fiasco i ask ?

Just checked the fixtures, after taking the two scores away from MVP they still have 80 points (with one game to go), Latin Legends are in second with 44 points, hardly making much difference to their position in the table is it.

Like I said to Matty, the defaults wont be a case of looking at 3 players from each team selected to play, we left killer open ended for clans to make it easier for them so we'd have to look at every member of the clan to see why the game wasnt played.

Without looking at it, there's a strong possibility that of those 12 defaults perhaps only 3 or 4 teams are at fault each time so I'm sure the panel will pick up on trends. If a team only has 8 or 10 players, for example, and some of those are not very active, then it is clear where the blame lies.

Some of those 12 may also get played today.

Yes we did want it down to one and no one listened, Our guys worked hard to get all 4 games played and you now want to take the points off us lol.

In that case MVP deserve their 80 points that they have worked for.

you have missed the point, everyone listened (i even argued against it), its the runners (excluding Jay and Jem) who acted on it.

lets say Shooters folded now would it be fair if the previous scores got counted, knowing no one else can play them? i don't think so, its the same here.

So you think this is one large conspiracy to rob MVP lol?

It has nothing to do with MVP, it's about doing the most logical thing.

MVP would still be top it changes nothing really just the amount of points.

why is it still being talked about who said what beforehand? Again, would the same people be apologizing now if it had worked out? No. This makes no difference at all to what should be done now.

Making a difference is not the point, point is we played the format the league runners argued for and now we are getting penalised.

true i was just showing ab and horse that they are wrong with their assessment

badger2 - they have 80 after taking two killer results away, they will still be miles ahead in the lead, they can afford to lose a couple of points. I get that they worked hard and I applaud them but as Seb said, its the logical thing to do.

It is not about robbing MVP as I like most of the players and I am due to marry one of them lol it is just about smoothing out the league and making it fair across the board.

Sorry has anyone mentioned anything to do with a conspiacy, we didn't say that.
Seb, it was never going to work out, some of us did say but no one listened.

Edited at 11:20 Sun 08/07/12 (BST)

i give up -_-

Yes, you were right. I said that yesterday. Makes no difference now though.

Lets just see what the runners vote on, if it comes back as reducing to 1 game and MVP have to give up some points then so be it.

If MVP want to have a hissy fit and leave the league over it then its petty but thats their choice. I have acknowledged their efforts as has everyone else but it still makes no difference to their standing in the league table.

Vote should've been done before the announcement was made.

Believe me theres more to it than having a hissy fit lol