Yes it aint ideal tratter :-)

dont like or agree with some stuff ive read pal

As this is a discussion thread and Sarah and Craig are not here I've spoke to some people and I they don't come back obviously there are a few of us here thT are gona take over although wont name names yet,


Just thought I would get everyone's opinion on the killer?

Keep it.

3 v 3 (or 4 v 4 if ambition allows!!)

12 available points to give the chance of negating the 12 points in Straight

winner plus 2nd & 3rd - 12-0
winner plus 2nd - 10-2
winner plus 3rd - 8-4
winner only - 7-5

or something like that

Yeah chris I was thinkin of adopting the scoring from snooker so that it's only 6 points per game as u play two 3vs3 games different players in each of the games, but all players could of already plate in the fixture before in either 8ball or 8uk or 9ball or straight but hey an only play in one killer game?

scrap it! unless you are going to trial it properly and score it seperate to normal league points or just keep them as friendlies to see how people cope with them.

thats just my opinion, but i have no interest in killer to be honest

you could do separate killer league that way you can do any scoring and clans who want to play can enter

if its 2 3x3 games i feel you can use same in both

If its not brought in for the reason ppl dont like it then you have to consider applying that principle to all the game types in FBL - particularly Straight which is just as unpopular amongst most members.

Ideally I would love to keep it as It negates the fact straight is where games are won and lost so I will try and incorporate it although I will ale each and every comment on board. What I might do if we as runners can't come Tina decision is get a captains vote :-)

I just ask that if it is incorporated, you dont score negatively in defaults if a player like myself refuses to play killer as i dont want it in the league, there should be an option to opt out. i am happy to play straight even though i hate it but thats the league i signed up for, i didnt sign up for killer.

if it goes to captains vote, you have mine already

Think it's a great idea as it was originally designed...a fun element that would take some of the emphasis off straight in matches.

Should be 2 games of 3x3 with different players in each, you have 16 players in clans that way clans will just play them when they have players on and not wait for their best 2 causing arguments and problems arranging.
Scoring is a bit tricky, after reading what others have said I would agree the winner should definitely get the lion's share so would just do it...
1st - 4 pts
2nd - 2 pts

Be the same scoring possibilities as straight then and if the last 2 are from different clans and battling it out would make for some great games.

There are 16 players in clans, most clans have 1 or 2 that like straight...some have none but most have loads that like killer, just because you personally don't like the game doesn't make it a bad addition.

I dont mind the 4 & 2 scoring - but just think trying to get two games organised, and ideally with diferent players in each, is doubling the difficulty.

One game with the largest number of players people think is feasible - with 12 points available - is still my choice.

Yeh i understand that there are people who like killer, im just making it clear that im not interested in it and i wont be playing in it

That's fine pixie I understand that you don't like killer I just hope this doesn't pull vipers out of fbl as if it is incorporated it will be part of the league as to negate the straight .

i wont for a minute pull Vipers from FBL, i like the league, the normal format and gives the clan games to play and with you running it, it should remain a fair and decent league

If you allow the use of the same players though chris you get the scenario where teams prioritise their best players being in the games rather than playing the games actually leading to difficulty arranging games and them not getting done.
Also players like seb, tinie and lethal_lures can win whole fixtures by themselves by playing 3 games...not the idea behind it all, it's supposed to add a team element and take the emphasis off 1 superstar player.
Clan players are very active and peak times teams normally have 5 or 6 players on...not difficult to arrange in my opinion.

Have to say, I agree here

I do agree I would love to see u put 2 games in but for the first season should we simplify it or shall we think if we're gona do it were gona do it wholeheartedly?

Yep all valid.

Thats why I would advocate a set time for each game - that way its up to each clan to have players available at that time. Have it late in the fixture period and allow teams to arrange to play at any mutually convenient time in advance of that set time. However if not played then the set time is where the default decision is based if it is required. Otherwise the game goes ahead at that time even if one clan has more players than the other.

Its the organising of the games that needs structuring just as much as the numbers of players and the scoring.