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14:24 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
however we are pushing on with the seperate clan killer league

teams of 8 players
3 x 3
open to 2 clan teams
this is totally optional
weve 4 teams entering anyway
so we will push on with this anyway



please offline message me if any clan team is interested. a notice will be sent out on all clan threads tonight

if other teams wish to join feel free
whocares8x8
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14:25 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Where are the preseason friendly fixtures?
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14:28 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Where are the preseason friendly fixtures?


on the new website, these will be released on sunday evening as per normal, weve have requested team lists earlier this morning sarah will release teams today sorry

pre-qualification will be one game only, so we can bring the league inline with the FCL
whocares8x8
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14:36 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
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14:40 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
you are seb

sorry we should have informed everyone
we are just finishing little tweaks before going live on the revamped defaults and new FBL site
whocares8x8
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14:49 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Ok, I'll need to know who we're playing before I send in lineups though.
dgeneratio
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15:52 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
we don't Seb, i read were exempt.

on another note why do we need to send teamlist for killer? what if someone can't make it? feel it was better when you can use anyone at anytime.

not complaining but just want to understand the reasoning
bluenose1872
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16:08 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
James, Craig said on last page that anyone can play in them they just need named players sent in for it.
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16:15 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Exactly jay. Just name players but then anyone can actually play it doesn't have to be those two.
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16:23 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
When the idea of killer being added was suggested it was supposed to be to add fun to the games and even the playing field a little bit.
The way it has progressed now is the total opposite, we could have had 2 x 6 man games using different clan members in each and it would have taken the focus away from the clans with the best straight players winning everything and been really good fun.
Instead we have ended up with a format that will mean players like lethal_lures will be playing 3 games in every match and teams with 2 great players will dominate even more, they will now get you 6 points each in straight and 5 in each killer game...ridiculous.
Instead of being fun you will have huge arguments all the time because teams like shooters will be hassling on threads everytime they have lethal online and tratter on at the same time and avoid the games otherwise, leading to constant bickering between clans.
I won't be captaining or be vice in this league anymore as I think this is another sign of decisions being made to benefit certain clans.
Also withdraw me from the default panel.

Why change the reliabilty friendlies to one game as well? You hardly get a decent idea of whether a clan will cause defaults through a season by making it easier for everyone than it will be during a season.
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16:34 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I am also confused about the pre season, when i spoke to Sarah about the schedules of the leagues she did mention that there would only be one game, i can't find the message now but im sure she said there would be a one week deadline on that game also? Please correct me if i am wrong though, as i said i can't find the message now so can't be sure.
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16:37 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Teams completing 6 games is hardly evidence of reliability.
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16:41 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Although i like 2 vs 2 I do fully believe that 3 vs 3 is more tactical and is literally anyone's game,

But lee I don't believe this is to anyone's benefit now could you imagine a team of seb an tinie? Or Beenjammin and potlimit there are many teams with great players so to say its benefitting certain teams I feel is wrong even if I look at team angry and say yourself and greyhound the pair of you could easily beat lethal and tratter just like the other way round
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16:42 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Whos idea was killer anyways, its absolutely ridiculous... was the league not fine the way it was? i dont think killer should be used in any leagues whatsoever... i certainly wont be having anything to do with killer or FBL anymore, Utter joke
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16:45 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
The response has been fantastic for killer Owen in fact your the first person to come out and say killer shouldn't be in the leagues does that mean you will be pulling out of snooker league aswell?
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16:48 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
indeed i will, i couldnt care less if im the first one tbh
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16:50 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I think your bein a little hasty as clams are a team game right? The whole point of this killer is to make the killer a team game I do agree with what lee said though I should be 3vs3 as its more tactical and you do then have to rely on you partners
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16:51 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Thing is matty we wouldn't ever pick the same person in 2 killer games, only teams like shooters would to be honest.
The names you mention just prove my point more, it's supposed to be a clan league not who has the best 2 players on the game to get them 22 points a match.
We would want to share the games out equally like we do with everything else and if it was 2 x 6 man games with different people in each we could but when you are going to be playing seb and tinie, beenjammin and rapid_pot or you and lethal every game it's not about clans it's about who has the best 2 players...already got enough of that with the best straight players taking 6 points a game.
4 man killer is crap compared to 6 man too.
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16:51 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Thing is matty we wouldn't ever pick the same person in 2 killer games, only teams like shooters would to be honest.
The names you mention just prove my point more, it's supposed to be a clan league not who has the best 2 players on the game to get them 22 points a match.
We would want to share the games out equally like we do with everything else and if it was 2 x 6 man games with different people in each we could but when you are going to be playing seb and tinie, beenjammin and rapid_pot or you and lethal every game it's not about clans it's about who has the best 2 players...already got enough of that with the best straight players taking 6 points a game.


Correct
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16:53 Fri 1 Jun 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree that the games should be different players. No disputing that lee and I've already said thg the six man games would be better.
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