moved to FCL

LL vs SS
3 vs 3

scooby, toluca321 and zantetsukenz vs cymmerboy, sarny_lad and tinie
(4th, 5th, 6th) 3-12 (1st, 2nd, 3rd)

scooby, shortstop and zantetsukenz vs cymmerboy, sarny_lad and tinie
(2nd,4th,5th) 7-8 (1st,3rd,6th)

scooby, shortstop and zantetsukenz vs cymmerboy, sarny_lad and tinie
(1st,3rd,5th) 9-6 (2nd,4th,6th)

that was the second game we had with them, we won the other 12-3 couple nights ago. much enjoyed by all and when tactics come into play it makes it all more enjoyable.

gets my vote.

I had look and i noticed division one has now been done so I guess Sarah will be doing division 2 later.

Personally I dont think there should be a possibility of a draw if the game is played. Last man standing ensures their team wins most points.

Best scoring idea I have seen I think came from ipotalot.

Winner (plus 2nd and 3rd) = 6-0
Winner (plus 2nd) = 5-1
Winner = 4-2

Rather than have two Killer games (might be difficult to arrange with two sets of different players) you could also make it one game with double points.

That would offer the opportunity to offset the Straight advantage enjoyed by some clans which tends to distort results.

Yeah, but double points would allow a single game of killer to produce a 12-0 scoreline.
How about we play two games of killer per set, but the same players can play in both? That way, only one time has to be arranged, at which points both games get played.

Two games would be better - and yes they could be played consecutively by the same players in my opinion too.

There are a lot of Straight games which produce a 12-0 score because of the nature of the game. Would be nice to try and offer a chance to negate those slightly.

Personally I think we should make scoring system simple as its the first season, I do think lees idea is good as whoever wins their
Team should win.

We're stealing the killer idea for snooker (or at least we'll be testing it in the preseason friendlies). We'll be using that scoring system in the tests- dgen brought it up there.
I mentioned my idea about defaults before- if a killer game is unplayed by the last day, 9pm of deadline day will be the automatic time for the game to be played. Whoever is online at that time, can play the game. If there are at least 2 players of one team and 1 player of the other, the game can be played. If there are fewer, defaults are done according to the following table (people online):

If it's 3 players online vs 0 players, the default is 6-0.
If it's 2 vs 0, the default is 4-0.
If it's 1 vs 0, the default is 2-0.
If it's 1 vs 1, the default is 2-2.
If it's 0 vs 0, the default is 0-0.

Preseason friendlies there start next week Wednesday. I'll let you know how it goes...

That would mean the killer is arranged for a set team am I right seb? Otherwise is it not unfair that in deadline day I ring mich and Sam to get them online to play as other team have no-one then we win default?

Well, ideally the two teams should arrange for a time before that to get it played. Then no one has to worry about the last day.

But in case they can't, 9pm of deadline day will be the automatic time.

But would that not be unfair say for example as have players on every night but UT don't, then deadline day u only have one player in at9pm and we have three would you not feel hard done by?

There are no other ways to do defaults, because the default team can't possibly judge 6 people's messages and activity lol.

There could be situations where this doesn't adequately reflect what happened over the two weeks, but generally, players are active or they're not.
Also, you know from the beginning of the season that every deadline day at 9pm, there will be a killer game, assuming it wasn't played beforehand. People might be able to keep it free knowing this.
Luckily for us, we so far have no clans on snooker trying to screw everyone else over, so I'm not too worried about it there.

Lol I wasn't trying to be picky seb was just pointing out the one flaw in defaults to be honest but I do think if it goes to default the points should be halved so instead of 6-0 3-0 instead of 4-3 2-1 just so you don't get rewarded full points for the defaults? Wouldn't that then be an incentive to get it played in time?

Yeah, but a 6-0 default is given when all 3 players are online, meaning that team is ready to play the game!
Not sure why they wouldn't deserve the 6-0 default.

Could cut down the default for the 1vs1 and 1vs0 situations to make the default 1-1 and 1-0, instead of 2-2 and 2-0.

I don't think we'll need incentive to play the killer game- it's too much fun not to play it.

But we'll see how the trials go.

It's fun yeah I do agree I loved it :-)

But I'm the same with all defaults I don't believe anyone deserves all points for not getting a game played as in
Most cases both lots of people have tried to get game played but I think half points should be given, just my opinion though who am I :-p.

we will decide a default system after the games have been played

we have already got a system in place and ready to put in place,

the FCL has individual singles we are looking to have a seperate team killer league this will be open to all FBL clan teams, we are working on the website to get this sorted, depending on applications we could have up to 5 divisions

a system for drawing teams to put in divisions is already sorted

we will keep you up to date nxt week regards this

So the killer games will not be apart of the actual league, they will be a separate league in which clans can opt out if they want and not play in that league?

If i got the right idea there then i like that.

no m8 sorry

they will be part of the league format, and an optional event within the FBL like clan singles in FCL

the initial opposistion appears to have disapated, most if not all of the teams seem to enjoy it

and captains and players are now talking on how best to sort rules etc

its a major shift in oppinion

the website is being worked on as we speak to hold the clan killer league

the first draft of rules will be ready by sunday, most are done,
its a really exciting time