I refused? don't make me post the offline messages that we sent back and forth Lee, complete lie and you know it. I never refused, we got talking and i forgot about it. You can't even see what i say on the division one topics you can only see the last posts that were made so you don't even know anything. You want your access to have a look you can have it, you can ask Jema!

I posted on the division one as i was trying to help angel out as she could not re size the image the information was on so she could actually read it. Again get your facts right before posting ridiculous rubbish over the threads.

As for your corrupt league comment, that may change after you have access and see what the default team has posted, you will then see that no league runner or MVP player had anything to do with it. You dont like the league then you know where the door is as i have said before to many others. I'm not going to say i didn't expect this as soon as i found out the default scores but i would be lying.

You asked if I wanted to check the information was right and when I said yes then you changed your tune...all there in messages Jay.
I did everything humanly possible to play this game and he didn't do a thing apart from leave the game and not show up when arranged. I waited on here for 5 evenings in a row to complete the game and he logs in at 1am and doesn't even message me to explain why he didn't come back to finish or try and rearrange so again I chase him and we arrange for the thursday and he doesn't show up all evening. He knows friday is the last evening I can play and I am on again and he no shows, activity logs would have been just funny for him....because there wasn't any!!
The score is 7-7 whether it's corruption, biase
Your team knew they should lose massively on default that's why they spent deadline day posting crap on here


Edited by forum moderator horse10000, at 02:04 Sat 24/03/12 (GMT)

Firstly where in those messages did i refuse? nowhere, our talk went off subject from that may that be by me or by you, fact is i never refused and if i remember like you said above i offered in the first place. Like i said ask Jema if you want the access, you will get it if you ask and it will be removed the day after.

Secondly, im not part of the default team, it is there job to read the information and make a prediction, completely up to them what score they come up with. Real nice that you can call them "brain dead morons" though, very constructive comment that one, not!

I don't want to sit here at this time in the morning and argue with you over information that was sent in and read by all, we don't go by log ins anymore as unlike the FBL we don't have an admin on the league runner team. If we could get the log in information and use it then i would get it but last i heard and spoke to admin i was refused it.

My team? actually its a clan to me and thats it, i play my games and do my best that is all, what they get up to on the forum or what they say has nothing to do with me they are all there own people and their actions have nothing to do with anyone else.

I think cheated is the wrong word to use, and as for the rest of what you said - you spend your evenings on here to play and what not if you choose not to then i won't stop you, no skin off my nose to be honest.

Whether you agree with the result or not, all 3 league runners considered it fair as did the default panel, please do not insult my defaults panel, they are doing a good job.

I am not going to give you access to the forum as I do not think it is appropriate you looking at the other defaults and seeing who posted what prediction, but I have posted an image below of the discussion that took place on your default (blanking out the names of those who commented).

You will see Jay's part on that default, was 1) post the information on my behalf as we were together, he was logged on and I did not feel well, and 2) try and advise about resizing the images you sent us.



I consider the default to be fair, if you want to shout at anyone for locking the default, then aim it at me, not Jay. But I can assure you I am not biased nor am I a moron and neither is my default panel.

I don't spend evenings on here to play other than to play clan games when they are arranged if people can just not show up to them and get 7-7 results then what is the point in me showing up?
The simple fact is rapid_pot even admits that the game wasn't played because he couldn't get back on to finish it....there in black and white and you trying to say that a draw is fair is pathetic.

Edited by forum moderator horse10000, at 02:00 Sat 24/03/12 (GMT)

Didn't fix a time?! Lmao at this crap we started the game and he left!!
We arranged for thursday he didn't show!

Something blatantly got lost in translation with these messages...both at fault? How the hell am I at fault for sitting on here waiting for him to come back online and turning up when we arranged to play!

Don't make anything out that i say as pathetic, as i was not involved in the decision and more to the point it was the panel that came to the choice, we stick with what we said the result stands. I couldn't care less if you offered me a million quid it still will not be changed.

Love his you have came off the subject of our offline messages now though and how Jema's screenshot just totally made you out to be stupid. Again where in that print screen was i even involved in the decision? Oh thats right i was helping a panel member so they could try a re-size the information so they could read it, nothing more!

To your second post, everything that had been sent in as information was put on the default page, nothing was missing.

My last reply to you as im rather tired and tired of this conversation.

have message slimball to get this game played , saw him online and pm him no answer so have left him a offline message saying saturday morning im free to play it .. awaiting responce , deadline approching in that fix .. so if no sign of him can a sub be done ty

Well thank you for your thoughts Lee and other Angries I have taken on board what you have said, but I think the outcome was correct and the prediction will stand.

I now consider this case resolved

However, if you still want us league runners to "shove our corrupt leave", let me know and we will get you removed from the website

Enjoy the rest of the season guys

That is enough anymore posts that are against forum rules and i will cap the thread temporarily.

Edited at 02:34 Sat 24/03/12 (GMT)

Has someone actually put down this..

rapid_pot 8 7 ipotalot WAW really are they serious ? thats an utter joke. There's only one way this game could have gone and thats in our favour. Were is he getting the 7 points ? He's barely made an effort compared to lee, says he's going to appear one evening and is a no show. If he's getting the 7 points for staying on all day sunday then thats a lot of bs.

Im sorry but youse have made a right hash of this.

The subject is related to the thread horse so you shouldn't get to decide when it is end of topic.



Nice to see these blatant lies from MVP player in there, funny how he tells me his mum was busy getting stabbed and he was busy killing a kid with a cricket ball yet apparently was busy being super mod on on snooker lol or had memory problems or was having his dinner for 2 days!?!
Oh I should have gone over there and got him rather than expect him to show up on here as arranged to play a funkypool clan game?
Must apologise for thinking that evening meant the hours of 6pm-11pm that I was on and not the 1am that rapid_pot showed.

See as well that all the additional information that I provided apart from messages was omitted somehow yet rapid_pots was put through!

Come on Jay and Jem now that I have seen your photobucket album and seen the info posted where is my say on things to go with the messages?
Seems rapid_pot was allowed to post his lies but my truth got mislayed somehow...


MISSING SECTIONS
Despite him saying he would be available any evening this was the only evening throughout the fixture he had been. We started the match then at the end of the 3rd frame he said 'got to go foods arrived, i'll be back in a bit'
I waited on for him all evening (evidence on both teams threads) was 2 days before he logged back in and when he did was at 1.00am and he had made no attempt to contact me explaining why he hadn't come back or trying to rearrange so I messaged him again...

clearly said the game had to be played before the weekend because I knew that I was busy all weekend, he arranged to play thursday evening and I again sat online all evening waiting for him and he didn't show and again on friday evening I was checking routinely and he hadn't come online.
By starting and leaving the game he left me unable to ask for a sub and there really was nothing else I could do other than keep being online day after day.
The only time he became available to finish in the whole fortnight was on deadline day when he knew I was unavailable so he bombarded our thread with pitiful rubbish to try and get some default points.
Sent 4 days ago

I would just like to make this clear , FBL may have a member of admin on staff , but we have no access to log ins . !!

Edited at 02:42 Sat 24/03/12 (GMT)

In regards to Sarah's post, i was told by someone you would have log in details, if that is not the case then i won't be listening to that person again!

Lee - As Jema said there was a lot of information sent in, not sure how the above of what you have posted was missed from your messages though. May have been all the copying and pasting going on can't be sure. Jema has checked her inbox and unfortunately she has deleted all information that was sent in from all parties. We don't know if you indeed did send the above in the message though but im going to take your word for it as not even you could think up a post like that in 5 minutes. I don't see what the missed information will do and not sure if it will change the outcome but regardless of that...

I am re-opening (Well told Jema to) the rapid_pot v ipotalot default for one day. All default panel members will be messaged and told to once again look at the default and take into consideration the missed information you have posted above. After it is locked whether the score be the same or changed it will not be re-opened again.

Yes we do know if I sent the above in a message Jay



If it's the same after then it's still not fair enough but at least it's down to the defaults team not one person getting his say and the other not.

does that mean EVERY default will now get re-opened Jay if a clan dont like the outcome of the default?

now you have re opened this one ya will have to re open other as its only fair

Thanks for that Lee, at least now i know it was actually in the message as i said in previous post it is now re-opened to be discussed and there is a one day deadline on it due to the info in question being missed.

therev - This default was re-opened due to the above information that ipotalot posted earlier which had been missed and as he has proven it was in the message i have a right to allow it to be re-opened under the circumstances. Wasnt a case that he never liked the outcome it was based on information was missed and im trying to do the right thing by allowing it to be re-opened for that reason.