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01:52 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
King he wont come online unless u play from 2-1 as hes been offline for the past 4/5 hours, even after you said you want to play 11 games he aint come online he wants this to go to default because he knows you will win him on the table
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Go tell You half orange to come play 11 games and see who need that game in question the most...
Go tell You half orange to come play 11 games and see who need that game in question the most...
King he wont come online unless u play from 2-1 as hes been offline for the past 4/5 hours, even after you said you want to play 11 games he aint come online he wants this to go to default because he knows you will win him on the table
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01:52 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
hes "painting" keith and as been for past 4/5 hour :S
should make for an interesting default then
As he hasnt done the paintin in the last 24 hours as hes been messed around with "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you" "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you" "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you"....
Its been an utter joke playin LL this fixture!!!!!!
king8ball1 has stated several times he will play 11 more games, so why does ant not just come on and play those 11 games?
hes "painting" keith and as been for past 4/5 hour :S
should make for an interesting default then
As he hasnt done the paintin in the last 24 hours as hes been messed around with "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you" "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you" "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you"....
Its been an utter joke playin LL this fixture!!!!!!
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01:57 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
im ready to play 11 games.. after that. u all can do whatever u want!
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01:58 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
toluca321 came into the open room at the start and was asked to leave by antione08, him then returning, knowing full well he wasnt welcome was a breech in the agreed terms between king8ball1 and antione08. open room or not, toluca321 was told he was not welcome to spectate.
The time between the frames finishing and Ant sending me the screenshots would make it quite clear he didn't tamper with them, it was almost instantaneous.
toluca321 re-entered the room during frame 3, making that frame void, the score would have been 2-0, toluca321 then left, frame 4 commenced and king8ball1 logged off the game server during frame 5. DF haven't claimed this frame so LL should consider themself lucky the score isn't 3-1.
Re-entering doesnt breech the rules if its an open room - the rules only cover invites. If you start a game in an open room you are accepting those conditions. If you dont accept the conditions then you stop immediately and revert back to the guidelines as per the rules.
If that happens at 2-1 after the first three games, and during game 3 the issue arises, how does game 4 start? And consequently also game 5 as well?
As for screen shots they have always been not allowed as evidence on the basis they can be changed. Certainly not something I would know how to do but many posts on the subject showing they can be. Again its all or nothing - you use them all the time or not at all.
If that happens at 2-1 after the first three games, and during game 3 the issue arises, how does game 4 start? And consequently also game 5 as well?
As for screen shots they have always been not allowed as evidence on the basis they can be changed. Certainly not something I would know how to do but many posts on the subject showing they can be. Again its all or nothing - you use them all the time or not at all.
toluca321 came into the open room at the start and was asked to leave by antione08, him then returning, knowing full well he wasnt welcome was a breech in the agreed terms between king8ball1 and antione08. open room or not, toluca321 was told he was not welcome to spectate.
The time between the frames finishing and Ant sending me the screenshots would make it quite clear he didn't tamper with them, it was almost instantaneous.
toluca321 re-entered the room during frame 3, making that frame void, the score would have been 2-0, toluca321 then left, frame 4 commenced and king8ball1 logged off the game server during frame 5. DF haven't claimed this frame so LL should consider themself lucky the score isn't 3-1.
01:58 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
The rules say stop play if the consent is broken, nowhere does it say frames are void/need to be replayed, also the rules say game rooms should be private, so you can void the whole match as it wasn't private if the voiding is allowed.
follow the rules?
And still waiting for a sub on refusal to play
follow the rules?
And still waiting for a sub on refusal to play
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01:59 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Ant was not aware the game room was open untill toluca reentered, as soon as he found out it was he suggested that he made a new game that was private.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
Re-entering doesnt breech the rules if its an open room - the rules only cover invites. If you start a game in an open room you are accepting those conditions. If you dont accept the conditions then you stop immediately and revert back to the guidelines as per the rules.
If that happens at 2-1 after the first three games, and during game 3 the issue arises, how does game 4 start? And consequently also game 5 as well?
As for screen shots they have always been not allowed as evidence on the basis they can be changed. Certainly not something I would know how to do but many posts on the subject showing they can be. Again its all or nothing - you use them all the time or not at all.
If that happens at 2-1 after the first three games, and during game 3 the issue arises, how does game 4 start? And consequently also game 5 as well?
As for screen shots they have always been not allowed as evidence on the basis they can be changed. Certainly not something I would know how to do but many posts on the subject showing they can be. Again its all or nothing - you use them all the time or not at all.
Ant was not aware the game room was open untill toluca reentered, as soon as he found out it was he suggested that he made a new game that was private.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
02:00 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Why should i turn around and say that all games are void? The both players would refuse to play the game. If they can come to an understanding and play the match then all is good
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02:01 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
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you seem to know too much i can say..
WHY DIDNT HE SAY SOMETHING at the moment toluca got in in game 3??
and game results shows 4 balls on the table .. making it seem like he wasnt too busy to say something...
you seem to know too much i can say..
WHY DIDNT HE SAY SOMETHING at the moment toluca got in in game 3??
and game results shows 4 balls on the table .. making it seem like he wasnt too busy to say something...
02:01 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Nowhere in the rules does it say games played which break the mutual consent are void, it just says that it is a valid reason to stop playing. So all that means is it wouldn't go against them in a default if you follow the rules. It seems like Ant only said something because he lost. Since they've already said the 5th frame would be replayed, it should be 2-2 (or 0-0 since the game room was public not private)
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02:03 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
he did! and screen shots prove that!
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you seem to know too much i can say..
WHY DIDNT HE SAY SOMETHING at the moment toluca got in in game 3??
and game results shows 4 balls on the table .. making it seem like he wasnt too busy to say something...
you seem to know too much i can say..
WHY DIDNT HE SAY SOMETHING at the moment toluca got in in game 3??
and game results shows 4 balls on the table .. making it seem like he wasnt too busy to say something...
he did! and screen shots prove that!
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02:04 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
I know too much because I can see the events that took place.
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you seem to know too much i can say..
WHY DIDNT HE SAY SOMETHING at the moment toluca got in in game 3??
and game results shows 4 balls on the table .. making it seem like he wasnt too busy to say something...
you seem to know too much i can say..
WHY DIDNT HE SAY SOMETHING at the moment toluca got in in game 3??
and game results shows 4 balls on the table .. making it seem like he wasnt too busy to say something...
I know too much because I can see the events that took place.
02:06 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Ant was not aware the game room was open untill toluca reentered, as soon as he found out it was he suggested that he made a new game that was private.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
If Ant had a problem, why did he carrying on playing in the private room before discussing it? that would be logical to do o.o
Ant was not aware the game room was open untill toluca reentered, as soon as he found out it was he suggested that he made a new game that was private.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
If Ant had a problem, why did he carrying on playing in the private room before discussing it? that would be logical to do o.o
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02:07 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
If that is correct (and I have no reason to say it is or it isn't) then the score is 3-2 ant - which coincidentally ties in with the only factual evidence that actually exists - ie the two results pages. Thats why the overriding rule needs to be that the result of any completed game stands unless both players agree to replay.
Then you know not to allow any game to start unless you are 100% satisfied with the conditions - and avoids all subsequent arguments.
If you are going to change a rule mid season for the better - thats one there.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
If that is correct (and I have no reason to say it is or it isn't) then the score is 3-2 ant - which coincidentally ties in with the only factual evidence that actually exists - ie the two results pages. Thats why the overriding rule needs to be that the result of any completed game stands unless both players agree to replay.
Then you know not to allow any game to start unless you are 100% satisfied with the conditions - and avoids all subsequent arguments.
If you are going to change a rule mid season for the better - thats one there.
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02:08 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Ant was not aware the game room was open untill toluca reentered, as soon as he found out it was he suggested that he made a new game that was private.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
If Ant had a problem, why did he carrying on playing in the private room before discussing it? that would be logical to do o.o
Theres only so much you can say in the time of 1 shot!!
Ant was not aware the game room was open untill toluca reentered, as soon as he found out it was he suggested that he made a new game that was private.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
If Ant had a problem, why did he carrying on playing in the private room before discussing it? that would be logical to do o.o
Theres only so much you can say in the time of 1 shot!!
02:09 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Yet again, there is a player online waiting to play why cant all adults agree and just get the game played.
Come on guys please lets get the games played so to stop all the arguments
Come on guys please lets get the games played so to stop all the arguments
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02:10 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
he must be tired aswell after so much painting sure abit of fp would help
02:11 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Ant was not aware the game room was open untill toluca reentered, as soon as he found out it was he suggested that he made a new game that was private.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
If Ant had a problem, why did he carrying on playing in the private room before discussing it? that would be logical to do o.o
Theres only so much you can say in the time of 1 shot!!
And if he was unhappy or something needed discussion, you can't really do that whilst trying to focus on playing a game can you? so he should have never started playing again while there was a discussion to be made
Ant was not aware the game room was open untill toluca reentered, as soon as he found out it was he suggested that he made a new game that was private.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
If Ant had a problem, why did he carrying on playing in the private room before discussing it? that would be logical to do o.o
Theres only so much you can say in the time of 1 shot!!
And if he was unhappy or something needed discussion, you can't really do that whilst trying to focus on playing a game can you? so he should have never started playing again while there was a discussion to be made
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02:11 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
the only way to stop a game after started is to leave.. i can really play a game someone telling me my past game didnt count..
at that moment was open table still.
once again. i will play 11 games.. if he want.. other than that. i dont know what you all want to do.. ive been here hours..
at that moment was open table still.
once again. i will play 11 games.. if he want.. other than that. i dont know what you all want to do.. ive been here hours..
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02:12 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
hes been missing for past 5 hours now crazzy and i dunno why as in the quote below emma as said ant aint done any painting at all
Yet again, there is a player online waiting to play why cant all adults agree and just get the game played.
Come on guys please lets get the games played so to stop all the arguments
Come on guys please lets get the games played so to stop all the arguments
hes been missing for past 5 hours now crazzy and i dunno why as in the quote below emma as said ant aint done any painting at all
As he hasnt done the paintin in the last 24 hours as hes been messed around with "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you" "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you" "kingball will play" logs in "no i wont play you"....
Its been an utter joke playin LL this fixture!!!!!!
Its been an utter joke playin LL this fixture!!!!!!
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02:14 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
If that is correct (and I have no reason to say it is or it isn't) then the score is 3-2 ant - which coincidentally ties in with the only factual evidence that actually exists - ie the two results pages. Thats why the overriding rule needs to be that the result of any completed game stands.
The people that have seen all the evidence have said 2-1 surely that is enough for you?
All this would be easily solved if king8ball1 could agree with the ruling of the league runners and get the game complete continuing from 2-1!
We were instructed by the head league runner to agree on a score and to continue the game.king8ball1 was unable to do this so the league runners made the discission from the evidence that the score should stand as 2-1. The fact that king8ball1 is refusing to carry on at this point is down to his refusals to play and nothing more.
King started game 4 and gb so not much time for dicussion. Then when the convo started, King1ball having started frame 5 threw his toys out of the pram sayin he wouldnt play any more branding ant a cheat.
If that is correct (and I have no reason to say it is or it isn't) then the score is 3-2 ant - which coincidentally ties in with the only factual evidence that actually exists - ie the two results pages. Thats why the overriding rule needs to be that the result of any completed game stands.
The people that have seen all the evidence have said 2-1 surely that is enough for you?
All this would be easily solved if king8ball1 could agree with the ruling of the league runners and get the game complete continuing from 2-1!
We were instructed by the head league runner to agree on a score and to continue the game.king8ball1 was unable to do this so the league runners made the discission from the evidence that the score should stand as 2-1. The fact that king8ball1 is refusing to carry on at this point is down to his refusals to play and nothing more.
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